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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Micah Sweet" data-source="post: 9747549" data-attributes="member: 6747251">What I would do under what circumstance? Did you have a scenario in mind? In general I would have fairly regular communication, in one way or another, between the PC and the patron (or perhaps their agent). During these times the patron would push their agenda, suggesting or maybe even ordering courses of action, depending on their nature. They might meet other creatures with a relationship with their patron, or see the effects of their influence. At some point they may even be summoned into their presence. If conflict between the two erupts, I would likely play it by ear. Penalties for non-compliance would vary greatly, but they would never begin with the kind of gleeful cut-off of abilities [USER=6790260]@EzekielRaiden[/USER] and [USER=7635]@Remathilis[/USER] seem so afraid of, and if it does end up there at some point, it will make sense in the setting and emergent narrative, and some kind of replacement will be potentially available.As a side note, I see the appeal of the Daggerheart method, but it requires a degree of metacurrency manipulation with which I am personally uncomfortable in a traditional RPG.</blockquote>