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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9751559" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Classic ENworld "question answered correctly in first response post" action here!</p><p></p><p>No sarcasm, I fully agree this is the absolute core of it. And every class where the PC and/or their powers can potentially be messed with by an outside entity has this to some greater or lesser extent - players getting concerned about having powers taken away or being messed with.</p><p></p><p>I gotta be real - I know I'm incredibly allergic to that myself. I often play characters who that could happen to, but I'll always ensure full alignment between the PC's goals and the dictats of the religious order or the like (this has notably lead to me playing a number of religious fanatics, which are frankly a joy to play!).</p><p></p><p>What I'm not sure I agree is true is that:</p><p></p><p></p><p>Emphasis mine. That's not something I've seen to be the case myself. In fact, I've mostly seen evidence to the contrary in games I've played in, and actual plays I've watched/listened to/read. I can envision it, because I've seen it with other, similar classes, but I think a lot of Warlocks want that conflict to be present (sounds like your one does for example).</p><p></p><p>Indeed, what I've seen more of is DMs who seem to think involving the patron is some sort of horrific and unreasonable burden on them than players who are terrified that they might have to deal with this!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9751559, member: 18"] Classic ENworld "question answered correctly in first response post" action here! No sarcasm, I fully agree this is the absolute core of it. And every class where the PC and/or their powers can potentially be messed with by an outside entity has this to some greater or lesser extent - players getting concerned about having powers taken away or being messed with. I gotta be real - I know I'm incredibly allergic to that myself. I often play characters who that could happen to, but I'll always ensure full alignment between the PC's goals and the dictats of the religious order or the like (this has notably lead to me playing a number of religious fanatics, which are frankly a joy to play!). What I'm not sure I agree is true is that: Emphasis mine. That's not something I've seen to be the case myself. In fact, I've mostly seen evidence to the contrary in games I've played in, and actual plays I've watched/listened to/read. I can envision it, because I've seen it with other, similar classes, but I think a lot of Warlocks want that conflict to be present (sounds like your one does for example). Indeed, what I've seen more of is DMs who seem to think involving the patron is some sort of horrific and unreasonable burden on them than players who are terrified that they might have to deal with this! [/QUOTE]
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