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<blockquote data-quote="eamon" data-source="post: 5922979" data-attributes="member: 51942"><p>Forcing my friends read a wall of legalese in a non-native language written with reference to terms that means something specific in some far-away jurisdiction isn't nice. Or what, are you suggesting that people agree to a contract with granting things like power of attorney and whatever without even reading it? Yay for that. I'm <em>definitely </em>not going to suggest signing this contract to any friends of mine.</p><p></p><p>Then there's the point that they didn't need it. They didn't even need copyright, since plain momentum would have kept out competitors, given the products in such a limited state any derivative is unlikely to be like the full D&D. And of course, even with copyright <em>and</em> this agreement a competitor that wants to make a clone trivially can, since the documents predictably leaked and are thus viewable without signing any NDA and furthermore, copyright applies to the text, not the concepts. As to the feedback bits (the assignment of copyright so they can use your suggestions without question etc.), these could easily have been placed.... on the feedback form, where it's again likely unnecessary but much more reasonable and not annoying the silent majority of tag-along playtesters that exist in all those other party members that join in but do not drive the playtest.</p><p></p><p>So, it's useless, it's annoying, it's a waste of time. And yes, as I previously said and Hussar also points out, it's probably not <em>particularly </em>nasty (but IANAL). So yay, it's merely harassment of those that actually follow their rules, which leads me to believe that Henry is entirely right in thinking that they never intended people to actually follow them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eamon, post: 5922979, member: 51942"] Forcing my friends read a wall of legalese in a non-native language written with reference to terms that means something specific in some far-away jurisdiction isn't nice. Or what, are you suggesting that people agree to a contract with granting things like power of attorney and whatever without even reading it? Yay for that. I'm [I]definitely [/I]not going to suggest signing this contract to any friends of mine. Then there's the point that they didn't need it. They didn't even need copyright, since plain momentum would have kept out competitors, given the products in such a limited state any derivative is unlikely to be like the full D&D. And of course, even with copyright [I]and[/I] this agreement a competitor that wants to make a clone trivially can, since the documents predictably leaked and are thus viewable without signing any NDA and furthermore, copyright applies to the text, not the concepts. As to the feedback bits (the assignment of copyright so they can use your suggestions without question etc.), these could easily have been placed.... on the feedback form, where it's again likely unnecessary but much more reasonable and not annoying the silent majority of tag-along playtesters that exist in all those other party members that join in but do not drive the playtest. So, it's useless, it's annoying, it's a waste of time. And yes, as I previously said and Hussar also points out, it's probably not [I]particularly [/I]nasty (but IANAL). So yay, it's merely harassment of those that actually follow their rules, which leads me to believe that Henry is entirely right in thinking that they never intended people to actually follow them. [/QUOTE]
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