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<blockquote data-quote="DandD" data-source="post: 4031171" data-attributes="member: 55168"><p>There aren't that many Planescape/Spelljammer/Dark Sun-novels or novels that preceed such settings (Dracula-stories, Cthulhu-mythos, cyberpunk-stories, pulp fiction adventures, and yeah, anime and manga), if compared with those other settings/game systems that you mention. Exalted would be a gross horror for most anti-4th edition-people here on this board, and they already feel that 4th edition is turning into something like that. </p><p></p><p>Also, one of the faults of TSR and why it went bankrupt was that they didn't do any market research. They all created these dozens of settings purely out of gut-feeling, and then simply didn't support them later. </p><p></p><p>There are of course other problems why the completely made-up-original settings didn't deliver that much. Some are mixing elements that people just feel 'meh' about it, while other have a forced symmetry-design that doesn't appeal that much to players... others have mediocre and rather bad novels that ruin the setting. </p><p></p><p>Of course, the funny thing is, the Forgotten Realms campaign game was heavily influenced by the Forgotten Realms-novels. Most FR-players always complained about the crazy stuff that the authors brought into the official setting due to the novels. That's how the FR were glutted with tons of uber-NPCs, absurd-strong magic items, those so-called "Realms-shaking-events" that seem to happen weekly, and stuff. And still, they tried to retain the Status Quo for the players who didn't care for the novels. </p><p></p><p>Now, they're trying to reset both things. Get rid of the bajillions of uber-NPCs that got introduced from the novels, and make the FR a place for pen-and-paper-rounds again, not only a (mediocre) fantasy novel line. </p><p>At least, they're trying. </p><p></p><p>Personally, I couldn't care less about the old or the new FR.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DandD, post: 4031171, member: 55168"] There aren't that many Planescape/Spelljammer/Dark Sun-novels or novels that preceed such settings (Dracula-stories, Cthulhu-mythos, cyberpunk-stories, pulp fiction adventures, and yeah, anime and manga), if compared with those other settings/game systems that you mention. Exalted would be a gross horror for most anti-4th edition-people here on this board, and they already feel that 4th edition is turning into something like that. Also, one of the faults of TSR and why it went bankrupt was that they didn't do any market research. They all created these dozens of settings purely out of gut-feeling, and then simply didn't support them later. There are of course other problems why the completely made-up-original settings didn't deliver that much. Some are mixing elements that people just feel 'meh' about it, while other have a forced symmetry-design that doesn't appeal that much to players... others have mediocre and rather bad novels that ruin the setting. Of course, the funny thing is, the Forgotten Realms campaign game was heavily influenced by the Forgotten Realms-novels. Most FR-players always complained about the crazy stuff that the authors brought into the official setting due to the novels. That's how the FR were glutted with tons of uber-NPCs, absurd-strong magic items, those so-called "Realms-shaking-events" that seem to happen weekly, and stuff. And still, they tried to retain the Status Quo for the players who didn't care for the novels. Now, they're trying to reset both things. Get rid of the bajillions of uber-NPCs that got introduced from the novels, and make the FR a place for pen-and-paper-rounds again, not only a (mediocre) fantasy novel line. At least, they're trying. Personally, I couldn't care less about the old or the new FR. [/QUOTE]
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