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<blockquote data-quote="phindar" data-source="post: 3392054" data-attributes="member: 37198"><p>I know, in fact if you go back and read my original post, I specifically called out the linking of physical attractiveness to CHA was lazy thinking on the part of <em>game designers</em>. The only systems I can think of off the top of my head that don't link them are Shadowrun (3e), and the Vampire/Werewolf family of White Wolf games (which has an Appearance stat). And AD&D, which had Comeliness. My point is that linking CHA to beauty is a dumb idea, not that its not in the book. (For whatever reason, not enough love as a child or something, looking at whether or not CHA and beauty are linked is one of the first things I do when reading a system. Its a pet peeve.)</p><p></p><p>Now, I don't use the phrase "dumb idea" lightly or carelessly. What I mean by that is 1) It Doesn't Do Anything (there's really no reason why a CHA 22 sorcerer can't be butt-ugly), and 2) It creates the problem of implying that characters get mechanical benefits (bonus spells, extra turn attempts, more <em>lay on hands</em> points) for being prettier. That is to say, if two characters are equally persausive, magnetic and all the other things CHA does, but one is prettier than the other, he will have a higher CHA and get more Sor spells per day. As I say, it works for Zoolander d20. For D&D, not so much.</p><p></p><p>By the by, this guy gets a +6 bonus to CHA:</p><p><img src="http://neo3555.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/mindflayer.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Nobody likes calamari that much. (Also, I figured to keep this marginally on topic, I should post a graphic.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="phindar, post: 3392054, member: 37198"] I know, in fact if you go back and read my original post, I specifically called out the linking of physical attractiveness to CHA was lazy thinking on the part of [i]game designers[/i]. The only systems I can think of off the top of my head that don't link them are Shadowrun (3e), and the Vampire/Werewolf family of White Wolf games (which has an Appearance stat). And AD&D, which had Comeliness. My point is that linking CHA to beauty is a dumb idea, not that its not in the book. (For whatever reason, not enough love as a child or something, looking at whether or not CHA and beauty are linked is one of the first things I do when reading a system. Its a pet peeve.) Now, I don't use the phrase "dumb idea" lightly or carelessly. What I mean by that is 1) It Doesn't Do Anything (there's really no reason why a CHA 22 sorcerer can't be butt-ugly), and 2) It creates the problem of implying that characters get mechanical benefits (bonus spells, extra turn attempts, more [i]lay on hands[/i] points) for being prettier. That is to say, if two characters are equally persausive, magnetic and all the other things CHA does, but one is prettier than the other, he will have a higher CHA and get more Sor spells per day. As I say, it works for Zoolander d20. For D&D, not so much. By the by, this guy gets a +6 bonus to CHA: [img]http://neo3555.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/mindflayer.jpg[/img] Nobody likes calamari that much. (Also, I figured to keep this marginally on topic, I should post a graphic.) [/QUOTE]
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