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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 8679193" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Well, maybe.&nbsp; I've been around the block a lot and I've played in full consensus games where no one really had the authority to impose a negative outcome on a player without their consent.&nbsp; But nothing like that stops those games from being dysfunctional.&nbsp; Typically, players that are dysfunctional in other sorts of play end up being dysfunctional when you change the premise as well.&nbsp; For example, the motive of the extreme self-affirmation types tends to make them spotlight hogs who always want to be cooler than all the other characters, and so even in situations where the GM is actually willing to run a game where the players triumph over every obstacle with ease (and I have seen that even in systems that in theory do have random death) the table isn't necessarily enjoying it because one or more players aren't just about winning but being seen to win more than everyone else.&nbsp; What I'm trying to say is that there is no guarantee at all this guy would be happy at another table with a different style of play.&nbsp; The more demanding the player is that everyone accommodate to him, the less likely I think that anything will really make him happy.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 8679193, member: 4937"] Well, maybe. I've been around the block a lot and I've played in full consensus games where no one really had the authority to impose a negative outcome on a player without their consent. But nothing like that stops those games from being dysfunctional. Typically, players that are dysfunctional in other sorts of play end up being dysfunctional when you change the premise as well. For example, the motive of the extreme self-affirmation types tends to make them spotlight hogs who always want to be cooler than all the other characters, and so even in situations where the GM is actually willing to run a game where the players triumph over every obstacle with ease (and I have seen that even in systems that in theory do have random death) the table isn't necessarily enjoying it because one or more players aren't just about winning but being seen to win more than everyone else. What I'm trying to say is that there is no guarantee at all this guy would be happy at another table with a different style of play. The more demanding the player is that everyone accommodate to him, the less likely I think that anything will really make him happy. [/QUOTE]

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