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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 6338132" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>So you agree? The words Friar and Monk are used interchangeably.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's a lot better and far more likely than "swordsman". Non-specific "warrior" or the like is also more likely.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I think you're somewhat confusing my argument with someone else. I'm not saying people see Friar Tuck as a D&D-style Shaolin-type Monk. I'm just saying that they absolutely do not see him as some sort of master swordsman-type. Fat, jolly, drunk, bald, he does fight - these things yes. But a "swordsman"? Not really.</p><p></p><p>Your 1938 film (which I have seen, but remember nothing of), 1940 book (which I have never even come across, despite liking Robin Hood, being British, and my mum being from right by Sherwood, I note), and 1820 book, yeah, they're not longer direct influences on the image of Robin Hood. Though that cute hat Errol has on still appears from time to time, usually to be mocked (I love those hats though!). Being annoyed by this will not change it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not Shaolin-style Monks? I think most nerds recognize that, but I know not all of them do. Sometimes it's even the other way around! I remember being introduced to 1E (post-2E) and being very confused that there was this class called "Monk", by which I, with then zero-exposure to Kung Fu flicks, assumed meant "A fat bald religious dude in a habit", but this class was some sort of weird mystic. He did remind me a bit of Friar Tuck because he was unarmed and unarmoured, like most depictions of said Friar I'd come across, but he seemed pretty odd!</p><p></p><p>What I'm saying re: Friar/Monk is that the WORDS are used interchangeably in day-to-day English, or just monk is used.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not trying to harsh your groove, but I'm pretty sure I'm right on this. The only thing you may be thinking that I'm saying, but I'm not, is that people think Friar Tuck was a Shaolin-style Monk. It's not that bad! But they sure don't think about pre-1940s depictions of Robin Hood much when they have a wealth of post-1990s depictions.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is a cool take on D&D Monks, I have to say.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 6338132, member: 18"] So you agree? The words Friar and Monk are used interchangeably. It's a lot better and far more likely than "swordsman". Non-specific "warrior" or the like is also more likely. I think you're somewhat confusing my argument with someone else. I'm not saying people see Friar Tuck as a D&D-style Shaolin-type Monk. I'm just saying that they absolutely do not see him as some sort of master swordsman-type. Fat, jolly, drunk, bald, he does fight - these things yes. But a "swordsman"? Not really. Your 1938 film (which I have seen, but remember nothing of), 1940 book (which I have never even come across, despite liking Robin Hood, being British, and my mum being from right by Sherwood, I note), and 1820 book, yeah, they're not longer direct influences on the image of Robin Hood. Though that cute hat Errol has on still appears from time to time, usually to be mocked (I love those hats though!). Being annoyed by this will not change it. Not Shaolin-style Monks? I think most nerds recognize that, but I know not all of them do. Sometimes it's even the other way around! I remember being introduced to 1E (post-2E) and being very confused that there was this class called "Monk", by which I, with then zero-exposure to Kung Fu flicks, assumed meant "A fat bald religious dude in a habit", but this class was some sort of weird mystic. He did remind me a bit of Friar Tuck because he was unarmed and unarmoured, like most depictions of said Friar I'd come across, but he seemed pretty odd! What I'm saying re: Friar/Monk is that the WORDS are used interchangeably in day-to-day English, or just monk is used. I'm not trying to harsh your groove, but I'm pretty sure I'm right on this. The only thing you may be thinking that I'm saying, but I'm not, is that people think Friar Tuck was a Shaolin-style Monk. It's not that bad! But they sure don't think about pre-1940s depictions of Robin Hood much when they have a wealth of post-1990s depictions. This is a cool take on D&D Monks, I have to say. [/QUOTE]
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