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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6339089" data-attributes="member: 4937">I suppose if you could come up with one that was LA +0 and had no racial HD I'd be ok mechanically with them being a PC.  If they had something like no racial HD and LA +1, I could probably balance them with standard races using the same sort of tools that I balance Orine and Idreth with.   Among other things that means that they certainly couldn't be large or have a +8 STR bonus.But there is a bigger thematic problem with them in my setting.  The Seven Free Peoples of Korrel don't just believe that they are fundamentally different than all the other races of the universe, they really are.   Those seven and only seven free peoples are: fey, goblinkin, elves, humans, orine, dwaves, and idreth.   The fey were the first free peoples - the small gods.  The other six were modeled after them jointly by the gods in a special act of creation that could only be replicated by all the gods again working together.   Virtually all other races on Korrel - and they are all also comparatively rare - were the creation of 1 or 2 deities and completely lack in the gift of free will.  They unavoidably resemble and serve their creators.  They cannot choose to worship any other gods, they never differ markedly from the alignment and personality of their creator, they unswervingly obey their creator, and they cannot advance in power (gain XP) without the permission of their creator.   For this reason they are called Lesser Servitors.  Lesser Servitors are not treated as people by the Free Peoples, but as emissaries or agents of a god because that's what they are.   If the god doesn't have standing in the community, they'd treat the Lesser Servitor as a monster.  If the god does have standing, they'd expect the Lesser Servitor to confine itself to matters belonging to that god.  Minotaurs are therefore always evil, and have no freedom in the sense that PC races have, and as such any player playing them outside their trope is simply doing it wrong.  Anything else is a violation of the cosmology of the setting.  Further, no civilized area is just going to shrug and say, "Heh, sure, the minotaur can drink in the bar."   They are either going to go, "Monster!", or "Where is the cleric responsible for minding this thing, and what are you doing outside the temple grounds?"  This could not possibly IMO be a fun situation for a player.  It would require an amazing RPer with an amazing idea and a deep knowledge of my setting from years of playing in it for me to consider something like a minotaur character, and only if they were willing to have Minotaurs implemented as LA +0 races with no racial HD.   Your average player who wants something like a 7' muscular dangerous character would be better off with an Orine or playing a human and taking the Massive trait.   I'm frankly not all convinced that even though you've played Minotaurs that there is something so unique and special to the biology of a Minotaur that you can't get the experience elsewhere.  What is it about Minotaurs that is biologically and psychologically distinct from all other possibilities that makes them special to you?   What in particular about them makes them a blast to play?Now, there are some examples of things that aren't the above seven races that would have the characteristics of free peoples, and could theoretically exist in the cosmology, but which aren't on the official approved PC race list.  These include many varieties of fey that are off mostly because I don't have a +0 LA template for them and can't at the moment conceive what you could do with a +0 LA template that you couldn't do with a Pixie, Changling or Sidhe.   However, one possibility that immediately comes to mind is a Genasi character.   The genie are in fact free peoples, being simply the elemental cousins of the fey.  The genie have at time bred with both the Gods - creating the race of giants - and with free peoples, creating various varieties of sorcerers.   I might be inclined to consider a Genasi character if the PC knew what he was getting into, had a great idea for a character, and did not want to play a sorcerer.   Playing a sorcerer is normally  how you convey 'I'm not quite human' under the rules, and with pretty flexible multi-classing its pretty easy to dip sorcerer and have that just work (in fact dipping spellcasters is just about broken in that its easy to get more back than you paid for and thus highly encouraged under my rules).   But conceivably there could be a concept that that wasn't right for that and I might consider a one off genasi PC.</blockquote>

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