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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6278098" data-attributes="member: 92511"><p>I immediately voted "Nothing." The guy is a fighter, not a cleric. That is my knee-jerk response. </p><p></p><p>But with thought, the response doesn't change. It is simply a single case/scenario that requires a single interpretation...and is far too singular: playstyle preference, campaign world specifications, player [and table as a whole] expectations...it's all very setting/table-to-table dependent for there to be "an" answer.</p><p></p><p>In my campaign world, the gods are highly removed/restricted, except to clerics and paladins [and other divine-dependent classes], by [out of game] design and [in game] divine decree. Interfering in such a way to someone not a cleric/paladin would be a cosmic "no-no" for the deity.</p><p></p><p>That is not to say they couldn't...just that they aren't supposed to.</p><p></p><p>Mystical/spiritual stuff like this, I tend to try to play "mysterious." </p><p></p><p>Maybe she lives (with or without a legitimate die roll)...was that an answer to the pray? Maybe. Maybe not. That's up to the players to role-play their characters' perceptions accordingly. </p><p></p><p>Maybe I fiat that a cleric (perhaps of some<em> other</em> deity, just to stir the pot) shows up...was that answering the prayer? Maybe. Maybe not. If it wasn't a cleric of Pelor...what's <em>that</em> do to the fighter's faith?</p><p></p><p>Maybe the player of the wife has expressed some dissatisfaction or boredom with their character and wants to play something else...so she dies.</p><p></p><p>Maybe the player of the wife loves their character/doesn't want to die...it's just been the luck/roll of the dice...in which case, I am likely to fudge the stabilization.</p><p></p><p>Maybe the player of the fighter has expressed some desire to move/grow into a more clerical or paladinic role...so she lives...and/but he's now a 1st level cleric (though more likely I'd probably handwave him -he's 6th level?- so maybe a 3rd level paladin since he's already got the fighter thing down).</p><p></p><p>Maybe a particular game uses the 1e-style divine intervention rule "Gimme a percentage roll. We'll see what happens..." Though, in my experience, players are more interested in repeatedly shouting the names of demonlords or archdevils to see if they show up. Once, the roll actually WAS 1% and *poof* there was Orcus. What'cha gonna do now, big mouth?! I believe everyone was rolling up new characters the following week. </p><p></p><p>Maybe the players have worked out this new direction to roleplay the fighter, to be a brooding/grief stricken atheist or a loss of and subsequent restoration/return-to-faith sorta story...so she dies. The fighter curses his foolish notions, and the gods, scoffing at clerics and any religious persons he encounters...until...</p><p></p><p>Maybe, as many have stated, the gods are a lot more active in a particular world, so an angel shows up...or the deity themselves...or the fighter passes out from his exhaustion/grief in the aftermath of battle, has a vision of the deity showing up, and when he 'awakens", the wife is alive...or the vision is of archons (valkerie or anything else) coming to take his wife's soul away.</p><p></p><p>Maybe she dies. He's distraught for a short time but there's a Conan moment: when the fighter finds himself in dire straights and the wife's "soul" shows up at just the right time/a crucial moment to help him. Was that an act of the deity? Maybe. Maybe not.</p><p></p><p>Any or all of these things can change the outcome. </p><p></p><p>As presented...good roleplaying and all...he's playing his character the way he wants...not to "cash in a favor" at some point. He's not a cleric. No divine magic for him.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 6278098, member: 92511"] I immediately voted "Nothing." The guy is a fighter, not a cleric. That is my knee-jerk response. But with thought, the response doesn't change. It is simply a single case/scenario that requires a single interpretation...and is far too singular: playstyle preference, campaign world specifications, player [and table as a whole] expectations...it's all very setting/table-to-table dependent for there to be "an" answer. In my campaign world, the gods are highly removed/restricted, except to clerics and paladins [and other divine-dependent classes], by [out of game] design and [in game] divine decree. Interfering in such a way to someone not a cleric/paladin would be a cosmic "no-no" for the deity. That is not to say they couldn't...just that they aren't supposed to. Mystical/spiritual stuff like this, I tend to try to play "mysterious." Maybe she lives (with or without a legitimate die roll)...was that an answer to the pray? Maybe. Maybe not. That's up to the players to role-play their characters' perceptions accordingly. Maybe I fiat that a cleric (perhaps of some[I] other[/I] deity, just to stir the pot) shows up...was that answering the prayer? Maybe. Maybe not. If it wasn't a cleric of Pelor...what's [I]that[/I] do to the fighter's faith? Maybe the player of the wife has expressed some dissatisfaction or boredom with their character and wants to play something else...so she dies. Maybe the player of the wife loves their character/doesn't want to die...it's just been the luck/roll of the dice...in which case, I am likely to fudge the stabilization. Maybe the player of the fighter has expressed some desire to move/grow into a more clerical or paladinic role...so she lives...and/but he's now a 1st level cleric (though more likely I'd probably handwave him -he's 6th level?- so maybe a 3rd level paladin since he's already got the fighter thing down). Maybe a particular game uses the 1e-style divine intervention rule "Gimme a percentage roll. We'll see what happens..." Though, in my experience, players are more interested in repeatedly shouting the names of demonlords or archdevils to see if they show up. Once, the roll actually WAS 1% and *poof* there was Orcus. What'cha gonna do now, big mouth?! I believe everyone was rolling up new characters the following week. Maybe the players have worked out this new direction to roleplay the fighter, to be a brooding/grief stricken atheist or a loss of and subsequent restoration/return-to-faith sorta story...so she dies. The fighter curses his foolish notions, and the gods, scoffing at clerics and any religious persons he encounters...until... Maybe, as many have stated, the gods are a lot more active in a particular world, so an angel shows up...or the deity themselves...or the fighter passes out from his exhaustion/grief in the aftermath of battle, has a vision of the deity showing up, and when he 'awakens", the wife is alive...or the vision is of archons (valkerie or anything else) coming to take his wife's soul away. Maybe she dies. He's distraught for a short time but there's a Conan moment: when the fighter finds himself in dire straights and the wife's "soul" shows up at just the right time/a crucial moment to help him. Was that an act of the deity? Maybe. Maybe not. Any or all of these things can change the outcome. As presented...good roleplaying and all...he's playing his character the way he wants...not to "cash in a favor" at some point. He's not a cleric. No divine magic for him. [/QUOTE]
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