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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9891419" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>I think you're asking for too much granularity. We already know that after dying the soul leaves the body and travels through the astral plane to the outerplanar destination. That's sufficient. The questions you ask should be up to the DM to work out if they ever come up.</p><p></p><p>At what point does unlife interfere with the process? When it consumes the soul. Most undead don't have souls. Exceptions like Vampires and Liches are, exceptions.</p><p></p><p>Is a soul leaving the body visible to those who can see astrally? Up to the DM. In 43 years of playing and DMing this has never come up in a game I've been in.</p><p></p><p>Are people in the astral able to see and interact with these souls? Up to the DM. In 43 years of playing and DMing this has never come up in a game I've been in.</p><p></p><p>How does the afterlife feel about that? Up to the DM. For my game, since souls are the major source of a god's power, raising someone is the cleric, through his god, taking a small portion of power away from the god the soul worshipped. One god taking even a small amount of power away from a god, which may never come back since people who are alive can change deities, indebts the raising god to the god who is losing that bit of power. Clerics do not lightly indebt their god to another god, and so raises are very rare in my game.</p><p></p><p>What impact does it have on the afterlife and other inhabitants? Up to the DM. In 43 years of playing and DMing this has never come up in a game I've been in.</p><p></p><p>Why do atheists go to hell? Up to the DM. In my game it's an incentive imposed by the gods for mortals to pick a god to follow. It's how they get their power after all.</p><p></p><p>Does every afterlife benefit from souls in the same way? This has been answered. It's no. Some souls go to the lower planes and become larva, a currency of the lower planes. Others go to the upper planes and become petitioners.</p><p></p><p>If so, why do some gods oppose undeath and some don't seem to care, or actively encourage it? This has also been answered. Portfolios and personality. </p><p></p><p>If they benefit in different ways, why and how? This has also been answered. Larva are consumed as food and power, or sometimes turned into minor demons/devils, etc. Petitioners are eventually absorbed into their god, become a part of that god and increasing the god's power.</p><p></p><p>Most of what you ask rarely, if ever, comes up in the game. It would be a waste of space for WotC to cement what the answers to those things are instead of allowing DM's to come up with personal answers for their tables.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 9891419, member: 23751"] I think you're asking for too much granularity. We already know that after dying the soul leaves the body and travels through the astral plane to the outerplanar destination. That's sufficient. The questions you ask should be up to the DM to work out if they ever come up. At what point does unlife interfere with the process? When it consumes the soul. Most undead don't have souls. Exceptions like Vampires and Liches are, exceptions. Is a soul leaving the body visible to those who can see astrally? Up to the DM. In 43 years of playing and DMing this has never come up in a game I've been in. Are people in the astral able to see and interact with these souls? Up to the DM. In 43 years of playing and DMing this has never come up in a game I've been in. How does the afterlife feel about that? Up to the DM. For my game, since souls are the major source of a god's power, raising someone is the cleric, through his god, taking a small portion of power away from the god the soul worshipped. One god taking even a small amount of power away from a god, which may never come back since people who are alive can change deities, indebts the raising god to the god who is losing that bit of power. Clerics do not lightly indebt their god to another god, and so raises are very rare in my game. What impact does it have on the afterlife and other inhabitants? Up to the DM. In 43 years of playing and DMing this has never come up in a game I've been in. Why do atheists go to hell? Up to the DM. In my game it's an incentive imposed by the gods for mortals to pick a god to follow. It's how they get their power after all. Does every afterlife benefit from souls in the same way? This has been answered. It's no. Some souls go to the lower planes and become larva, a currency of the lower planes. Others go to the upper planes and become petitioners. If so, why do some gods oppose undeath and some don't seem to care, or actively encourage it? This has also been answered. Portfolios and personality. If they benefit in different ways, why and how? This has also been answered. Larva are consumed as food and power, or sometimes turned into minor demons/devils, etc. Petitioners are eventually absorbed into their god, become a part of that god and increasing the god's power. Most of what you ask rarely, if ever, comes up in the game. It would be a waste of space for WotC to cement what the answers to those things are instead of allowing DM's to come up with personal answers for their tables. [/QUOTE]
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