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<blockquote data-quote="Zhnov" data-source="post: 984987" data-attributes="member: 12424"><p>My thoughts were going in the same direction... at first thinking maybe it would only apply to the opposite sex, but then again... some folks can be intimidated through the stark good looks of another of the same sex, without the sexual connotations (I'm ugly, and most non-ugly people intimidate me). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>I agree that its impact should be limited to situations where appearance is important.</p><p></p><p>We use the Comelineness ability score from Dragon magazine (circa AD&D 1E, off the top of my head). IMC, we will apply the bonus from these spells directly to this ability's bonus, rather than Charisma. We use Com modifiers to augment Perform and many Charisma checks against the opposite gender (but the character has to elect to use one or the other for each circumstance).</p><p></p><p>Since I'm using the spell to support a house rule, I had to write it in a way that most folks in this forum would find useful -- hence Charisma modifier.</p><p></p><p>There are few areas that we don't explore in RP, from relationships of the characters, coming of age, politics, and culture. Some of these things (though less heroic) need metrics to be handled effectively, and could use magic to augment.</p><p></p><p>Orlic</p><p></p><p>Anyway, updated versions of the spells (now there is 3, one with a limited duration). Thoughts ? :</p><p></p><p><strong>Beauty</strong></p><p>Transmutation</p><p></p><p>Level: Soc/Wiz 2</p><p>Component: V,S,M</p><p>Casting Time: 1 action</p><p>Range: Touch</p><p>Duration: 4 hours + 1 hour/level</p><p>Target: One Creature</p><p>Saving Throw: Will negates</p><p>Spell Resistance: Yes</p><p></p><p>This spell transforms the target creature into a more beautiful version of itself. Although its appearance improves, it is easily recognized as itself. An effect of this spell is to grant a competency bonus to Charisma checks of +1 (limited to the bonus to Charisma checks related to situations where beauty would be considered, such as non-hostile interactions with similar or identical races). This effect does not stack with other appearance-based magic bonuses to Charisma checks. The focus for this spell is a mirror of at least 50 gp value.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Lasting Beauty</strong></p><p>Transmutation</p><p></p><p>Level: Soc/Wiz 3</p><p>Duration: Permanent</p><p></p><p>As <em>Beauty</em>, but the duration is permanent, and the effect does not stack with other appearance-based magic bonuses to Charisma checks.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Eternal Beauty</strong></p><p>Transmutation</p><p></p><p>Level: Soc/Wiz 4</p><p>Duration: Instantaneous</p><p></p><p>As <em>Beauty</em>, but the duration is instantaneous, and the competency bonus to Charisma checks is +2, and the effect does not stack with other appearance-based magic bonuses to Charisma checks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zhnov, post: 984987, member: 12424"] My thoughts were going in the same direction... at first thinking maybe it would only apply to the opposite sex, but then again... some folks can be intimidated through the stark good looks of another of the same sex, without the sexual connotations (I'm ugly, and most non-ugly people intimidate me). :D I agree that its impact should be limited to situations where appearance is important. We use the Comelineness ability score from Dragon magazine (circa AD&D 1E, off the top of my head). IMC, we will apply the bonus from these spells directly to this ability's bonus, rather than Charisma. We use Com modifiers to augment Perform and many Charisma checks against the opposite gender (but the character has to elect to use one or the other for each circumstance). Since I'm using the spell to support a house rule, I had to write it in a way that most folks in this forum would find useful -- hence Charisma modifier. There are few areas that we don't explore in RP, from relationships of the characters, coming of age, politics, and culture. Some of these things (though less heroic) need metrics to be handled effectively, and could use magic to augment. Orlic Anyway, updated versions of the spells (now there is 3, one with a limited duration). Thoughts ? : [B]Beauty[/B] Transmutation Level: Soc/Wiz 2 Component: V,S,M Casting Time: 1 action Range: Touch Duration: 4 hours + 1 hour/level Target: One Creature Saving Throw: Will negates Spell Resistance: Yes This spell transforms the target creature into a more beautiful version of itself. Although its appearance improves, it is easily recognized as itself. An effect of this spell is to grant a competency bonus to Charisma checks of +1 (limited to the bonus to Charisma checks related to situations where beauty would be considered, such as non-hostile interactions with similar or identical races). This effect does not stack with other appearance-based magic bonuses to Charisma checks. The focus for this spell is a mirror of at least 50 gp value. [B]Lasting Beauty[/B] Transmutation Level: Soc/Wiz 3 Duration: Permanent As [I]Beauty[/I], but the duration is permanent, and the effect does not stack with other appearance-based magic bonuses to Charisma checks. [B]Eternal Beauty[/B] Transmutation Level: Soc/Wiz 4 Duration: Instantaneous As [I]Beauty[/I], but the duration is instantaneous, and the competency bonus to Charisma checks is +2, and the effect does not stack with other appearance-based magic bonuses to Charisma checks. [/QUOTE]
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