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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Mhoram" data-source="post: 7718999" data-attributes="member: 4789">Ah.After I finished the post, it came off, to me, as a bit of an emotional screed, and angry rant. - and I didn't want to raise the confrontation level, which I felt that did. That was why I deleted it. the later post.. well when you answered my question with a question it almost seemed like you were using socratic tricks to "win" the argument, and I couldn't see why you didn't answer my first question - hence the question of "what is your purpose" - I understand now, that isn't the case. To go over the points that I deleted - without quite the emotional intensity.Fate Points are (I hate to use the phrase) Narrativist. They force narrative changes and player focus by mechanical rewards.I developed my playstyle back in the early days when all the character sheet meant was "can I do this" and "how well can I do this" - basically the rules in let's pretend that didn't lead to "I shot you" "no you didn't" "yes you did". And so my ways to immerse in character were completely devoid of mechanics that impacted that.These day mechanics that encourage roleplaying by mechanical means intrude on my immersion because I developed my playstyle before those kinds of mechanics existed. Fate is a fine RPG, and many love how it works. I find it gets in the way of roleplay. Many people don't like rules heavy games because "it gets in the way of roleplay" - I love rules heavy games with rules for everything, because I learn the rules inside out, play the game for decades, and then I don't even think of rules at all, just about my character and being immersed in his world, emotions and choices. They become the "physics" the character lives by. I don't think of the rules anymore than I think about the physics of walking in real life.So I can deal with generic bennie points, or things like "chi" that has a specified pool of (that the character is aware) - but fate points that tie the economy of them to character decisions, actions and plot pull me out of character, as I developed my own way of having character make unwise choices (as an example) without outside mechanical intrusion into doing so.</blockquote>

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