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<blockquote data-quote="amerigoV" data-source="post: 6181025"><p>On the player not willing to play PHB only game:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I do not find it that surprising. 3.5 has been out for a long time with a lot of options. Consider the player options available:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> PHB</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> PHB2</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Spell Compendium</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Magic Item Compendium</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Complete Warrior, Divine, Arcane, Adventurer, Mage, Champion, Scoundrel, Psionic</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Frostburn, Sandstorm, Stormwrack</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Book of Exalted Deeds</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Races of Stone, Destiny, The Wild, The Dragon<br /> </li> </ul><p></p><p>Plus others I am sure.</p><p></p><p>"Ok, you can use this one book...." Even if you are not a power gamer, for some players you have cut out 80% of the options (granted that 80% is more specialized or deeper options of the core PHB). For a number of players making interesting builds is why they play D&D vs. less crunchy systems. This is especially so with 3.5, you can make exactly what you want if you purchased enough books <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. </p><p></p><p>IMO, D&D is part genre part rules. When you say "lets play D&D", that means more than just using a set of rules. While their experience varies (esp by edition), 3.5 was all about player options. That was its true mantra. To then say "lets play D&D, but only this book is allowed" will get you the same reaction from some as players as saying "lets play Star Wars without Jedi" - I mean, who would be silly enough to say that (sorry EotE, I could not resist)?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Plus, we do not know what the gaming options are for the player in question. Maybe they have a choice of groups - if so, why play in the group that you are not going to have fun in?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="amerigoV, post: 6181025"] On the player not willing to play PHB only game: I do not find it that surprising. 3.5 has been out for a long time with a lot of options. Consider the player options available: [list] [*] PHB [*] PHB2 [*] Spell Compendium [*] Magic Item Compendium [*] Complete Warrior, Divine, Arcane, Adventurer, Mage, Champion, Scoundrel, Psionic [*] Frostburn, Sandstorm, Stormwrack [*] Book of Exalted Deeds [*] Races of Stone, Destiny, The Wild, The Dragon [/list] Plus others I am sure. "Ok, you can use this one book...." Even if you are not a power gamer, for some players you have cut out 80% of the options (granted that 80% is more specialized or deeper options of the core PHB). For a number of players making interesting builds is why they play D&D vs. less crunchy systems. This is especially so with 3.5, you can make exactly what you want if you purchased enough books :). IMO, D&D is part genre part rules. When you say "lets play D&D", that means more than just using a set of rules. While their experience varies (esp by edition), 3.5 was all about player options. That was its true mantra. To then say "lets play D&D, but only this book is allowed" will get you the same reaction from some as players as saying "lets play Star Wars without Jedi" - I mean, who would be silly enough to say that (sorry EotE, I could not resist)? Plus, we do not know what the gaming options are for the player in question. Maybe they have a choice of groups - if so, why play in the group that you are not going to have fun in? [/QUOTE]
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