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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Derren" data-source="post: 4100496" data-attributes="member: 2518">[snip]Very impartial examples.Not surprising I don't agree with you that your definition of fun is the only one and that 4E makes everything correct. Can it be fun to play a fighter who is not limited by encounter powers? Yes of course. Can the HP system be written in a way so it makes sense and is still fun? Of course it can. Are two high level rigs for a lvl 1 character unbalanced? Of course, but so is a +5 Holy Avenger and I don't see any rules to prevent 1st level characters from using them. Maybe you should trust the DM that he won't hand out lvl 20 items at lvl 1 like candy?The 15 minute workday still exists in 4E to remove it you either need to remove resource managment completely or, the much better idea, encourage to write adventures with a time limit or at least don't make the dungeons static untill the adventurers come. When the PCs rest the dungeon inhabitants prepare their defenses, flee or hide their treasure.Every PC doing something different each round? In 3E maybe but in 4E everyone will use his 1-2 encounter powers first and then use his at will power over and over again. Its like everyone in 4E has as many combat options available to them than 3E fighters.And many of those explanation for HP, surges, etc. are rather weak. For example when HP only represents stamania which is completely replinished by resting, why can you only rest once a day and not twice?Instead of trying to write the rules in a way so that they are streamlined and still believable WotC simply said "screw believability". Of course people who want believable games are not very thrilled about that.</blockquote>

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