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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Derren" data-source="post: 4100823" data-attributes="member: 2518">And like many others you take the "all or nothing" strawman approach."D&D never had a completely realistic HP system so its HP can be completely unbelievable". No middle ground.The 4E HP system is much more unbelievable than the 3E one. Constant surges of HP? Being able to stand up in good condition after a lethal battle without outside help? Recovering all HP after a 6hours rest but only once a day?Either HP is stamina etc, then you should be able to recover them multiple times per day when you rest or they are physical but then 6 hours of rest doesn't make sense. No way how you turn it it is unbelievable.What you and many others forget (or ignore) is that I do not want that 4E is a 100% realistic simulation, but it should at least be as believable as 3E and here 4E fails already because it is less believable.</blockquote>