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The problem I've having with 4e.
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<blockquote data-quote="Thyrwyn" data-source="post: 4100891" data-attributes="member: 12354"><p>This is the one I prefer to go with. The thing is that the characters <em>don't</em> know how many 'uses' they have. The character may have been trying the maneuver all day ("My Swordmaster said I should work on my Passing Attack . . . "). The character may continue to try the maneuever after they have succeeded, to no avail. <u>Not every feint, dodge or blow is simulated in the combat rules - only the relevant ones.</u></p><p></p><p>The <strong>player</strong> knows how many uses the <em>character</em> has and decides when it should be relevant. </p><p></p><p>To the character, it would look something like this:</p><p>"OK, time to set up my Passing Attack, here we go. . . .rats, he didn't fall for it - ooh, but he knocked his buddy's shield out of line. . ." <<<Cleave>>></p><p></p><p>To the Player it looks like:</p><p>"That other Kobold is probably just a minion, I'll save my Passing Attack and just use Cleave this time."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thyrwyn, post: 4100891, member: 12354"] This is the one I prefer to go with. The thing is that the characters [i]don't[/i] know how many 'uses' they have. The character may have been trying the maneuver all day ("My Swordmaster said I should work on my Passing Attack . . . "). The character may continue to try the maneuever after they have succeeded, to no avail. [U]Not every feint, dodge or blow is simulated in the combat rules - only the relevant ones.[/U] The [b]player[/b] knows how many uses the [i]character[/i] has and decides when it should be relevant. To the character, it would look something like this: "OK, time to set up my Passing Attack, here we go. . . .rats, he didn't fall for it - ooh, but he knocked his buddy's shield out of line. . ." <<<Cleave>>> To the Player it looks like: "That other Kobold is probably just a minion, I'll save my Passing Attack and just use Cleave this time." [/QUOTE]
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