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<blockquote data-quote="Propheous_D" data-source="post: 4101003" data-attributes="member: 58952"><p>How much of that is the product of commercialization vs realism. Ed's Forgotten Realms is alot Ranchier then the produced FR. Conan is a bit more sexed up and violent then what is commonly protrayed in popular media. Even the Conan movies are a bit subdued and don't protray him near what he is in the books.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Here I think the problem is that you are saying "“believability” in a fantasy world so heavily inspired by Tolkien" though DnD itself is not related to that. Yes there are aspects of it, but DnD should not be judged on a Tolkien beleivability model. The Forgotten realms is so far from Tolkienish that its rediculous. I don't remember Tolkien having a wizard on every corner or magic item stores in every major town. FR has been that way since 2E.</p><p></p><p>Picking up a magic ring and putting it on does not mean you can tap its power. Its a long held fantasy tradition that things like this require specific things to meet criteria. Take the Sword of Shanara to some its a simple blade but to those who can wield its powers its something all together different. Lets look at the Sword of Truth and how it turned those wielding it into strange creatures subverted by its magic (very tolkienish even).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Propheous_D, post: 4101003, member: 58952"] How much of that is the product of commercialization vs realism. Ed's Forgotten Realms is alot Ranchier then the produced FR. Conan is a bit more sexed up and violent then what is commonly protrayed in popular media. Even the Conan movies are a bit subdued and don't protray him near what he is in the books. Here I think the problem is that you are saying "“believability” in a fantasy world so heavily inspired by Tolkien" though DnD itself is not related to that. Yes there are aspects of it, but DnD should not be judged on a Tolkien beleivability model. The Forgotten realms is so far from Tolkienish that its rediculous. I don't remember Tolkien having a wizard on every corner or magic item stores in every major town. FR has been that way since 2E. Picking up a magic ring and putting it on does not mean you can tap its power. Its a long held fantasy tradition that things like this require specific things to meet criteria. Take the Sword of Shanara to some its a simple blade but to those who can wield its powers its something all together different. Lets look at the Sword of Truth and how it turned those wielding it into strange creatures subverted by its magic (very tolkienish even). [/QUOTE]
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