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<blockquote data-quote="eleran" data-source="post: 4101297" data-attributes="member: 26319"><p>I agree those are the questions he wants answered. My issue is that I don't see why his character is thinking in terms of healing surges? Does his character know what hit points are and why some things have more than others? Does he always refer to himself by his class title? Does he and the group he travels with make decisions based on Armor Class? </p><p></p><p>If you agree to the conceit that hit points are more of an abstraction that actual physical debilitating damage then you can easily explain healing surges in an IC reference. If you have to constantly nitpick over when the threshold between the abstraction and physical debilitating damage happens then you will likely not go for the healing surge. </p><p></p><p>To me, it basically boils down to the last few hit points before unconsciousness and dying are the actual physical damage. If forced to quantify it I would say that 1 HP per character level is real honest to gosh physical damage represented by gashing bleeding wounds and possible broken bones (which is another thing no one ever mentions, why is it not a big deal that no one ever seems to break an arm or leg in game?). A gashing wound of 5 HP at 5th level that takes the character unconscious after he has exhausted his stamina, luck, dodging mojo, etc can be stitched up prior to bedding down for the night. Or maybe those are taken care of by the clerics healing power, or that potion of healing. Either way, in 3e and other previous editions, these wounds were easily fixed in no more than a day or 2 thru unmagical rest at the hands of an unmagical healer, so why not just compress the time needed to heal into one simple overnight rest and be done with it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eleran, post: 4101297, member: 26319"] I agree those are the questions he wants answered. My issue is that I don't see why his character is thinking in terms of healing surges? Does his character know what hit points are and why some things have more than others? Does he always refer to himself by his class title? Does he and the group he travels with make decisions based on Armor Class? If you agree to the conceit that hit points are more of an abstraction that actual physical debilitating damage then you can easily explain healing surges in an IC reference. If you have to constantly nitpick over when the threshold between the abstraction and physical debilitating damage happens then you will likely not go for the healing surge. To me, it basically boils down to the last few hit points before unconsciousness and dying are the actual physical damage. If forced to quantify it I would say that 1 HP per character level is real honest to gosh physical damage represented by gashing bleeding wounds and possible broken bones (which is another thing no one ever mentions, why is it not a big deal that no one ever seems to break an arm or leg in game?). A gashing wound of 5 HP at 5th level that takes the character unconscious after he has exhausted his stamina, luck, dodging mojo, etc can be stitched up prior to bedding down for the night. Or maybe those are taken care of by the clerics healing power, or that potion of healing. Either way, in 3e and other previous editions, these wounds were easily fixed in no more than a day or 2 thru unmagical rest at the hands of an unmagical healer, so why not just compress the time needed to heal into one simple overnight rest and be done with it? [/QUOTE]
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