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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 4656761" data-attributes="member: 48965">This is how I feel our conversation is going...what do you do if you can't play basketball...well you practice, go to a basketball camp, watch tapes, etc...But what if after all that you still can't play...Hire an NBA coach and NBA player to train you...But what if after all of that you still can't play basketball...Get a geneticist to splice super duper basketball playing genes into yours...But what if after all of that you still can't play basketball...I guess you should play football??? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused&nbsp; &nbsp; :confused:"&nbsp; data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" />Anything I suggest to you is answered by... but what if they can't... You've set up a situation where nothing I answer will satisfy you because the hypothetical GM just &quot;can't&quot;I agree here, and even said this earlier but to state &quot;balance&quot; is objectively good in and of itself in an rpg is wrong.&nbsp; I think that it depends on alot of things and so far as 4e is concerned they balanced it purely around combat which in turn creates it's own imbalances in other areas.&nbsp; YMMV of course.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 4656761, member: 48965"] This is how I feel our conversation is going... what do you do if you can't play basketball... well you practice, go to a basketball camp, watch tapes, etc... But what if after all that you still can't play... Hire an NBA coach and NBA player to train you... But what if after all of that you still can't play basketball... Get a geneticist to splice super duper basketball playing genes into yours... But what if after all of that you still can't play basketball... I guess you should play football??? :confused: Anything I suggest to you is answered by... but what if they can't... You've set up a situation where nothing I answer will satisfy you because the hypothetical GM just "can't" I agree here, and even said this earlier but to state "balance" is objectively good in and of itself in an rpg is wrong. I think that it depends on alot of things and so far as 4e is concerned they balanced it purely around combat which in turn creates it's own imbalances in other areas. YMMV of course. [/QUOTE]

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