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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jasperak" data-source="post: 4658646" data-attributes="member: 2487">I am going to try and clear up this whole "working through your issues" bit people keep bringing up.I want to know why people think I am painting with a wide brush, people that want moral questions in their game by this comment. Do I really have to say "at my table", "in my experience", "your mileage may vary" when I said specifically my feelings based on the handful of people I've gamed with.Or did I get closer with this?I tell a story about how one specific DM tried working through his questions on life in the game and then say "I do not play D&D... so someone can work though their issues." and I am labeled a BADWRONGFUN person. That guy needed a therapist! Again do I have to say AMT, IMHO, YMMV, etc..?Do I have to spell out that for the first sentence that if a DM sets up a situation that is supposed to evoke pity and I don't buy it because of the melodramic BS (alluded to by my "their feelings for their poor orcs" <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/cry.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":.-(" title="Cry    :.-(" data-shortname=":.-(" /> comment) I am implying every DM. Does it really change anything if I remove the 's' from DMs and change the 'their' to 'his'? I would be pissed off at any DM that acted like this at my table.I know I have said in later posts that one of the reasons I dislike the moral ambiguity questions is because I have never at my table, in my experience, and your mileage may vary, had a DM that could create a dramatic situation that properly evoked those feelings or questions. That does not imply that no one can play that way.Some moreWOW, imagine two Drizzit fanbois that not only have to deal with their character's heritage and naturally evil tendencies, but now are hamstrung because they have to question everything they kill. They cannot even rely on some good old orcs to kill because the DM is defining them in morally relativistic terms. At my table I have seen one of these people go brain dead and unable to act. This poor kid shut down because he couldn't make a morally ambiguous decision. Seriously. He couldn't figure out what he wanted to do. The other guy was just shallow and as far as I know left the game.Look I fairly admit I have seen the corner cases here. Most people probably haven't seen the absurdity I have seen that playing D&D can entail. But understand this, I mean what I say and have nothing to take back. I truly wish I was able to express my feelings about this question in a more concise manner, but it is what it is. Seriously, if I mean to attack or insult anyone I will come out and do it. That was what I feared I would do when this thread started. I thought it was going to veer into real world morality. I am glad that it stayed in game, and hope that we can keep this discussion going for as long as we need to. We are all gamers and I think we can learn from one another.</blockquote>

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