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<blockquote data-quote="Glade Riven" data-source="post: 5485658" data-attributes="member: 86468"><p>There is also a lot of nostalgia clouding one's vision. For a comparative example, I've met people who insist that the original Transformers show is brilliant and best-thing-ever, and all new Transformer shows are crap. The reality is that the original Transformers show was poorly written and made really cheaply. The production quality for the more recent Transformers shows have improved quite a bit in quality, and so has the writing.</p><p> </p><p>I've noticed that while it has been admitted that TSR produced poor quality and unwanted products, these threads pan out the TSR (and Gygax) gold but leave the waste material behind when it comes to newer editions. A lot of talk in this thread is about house-rules or ignoring rules you don't like that were put there for a reason or whatever. <em>You can do that in 3.5, 4e, and Pathfinder.</em> When I was introduced to 3.5, I didn't read through all the rules and the entire 3.5 PHB. I skimmed through, found something that sounded interesting to play, and learned how things worked at the table. That's how other new players in my last group got started.</p><p> </p><p>We got hooked on a character concept, and then just started to play. Other D&Ders were there to show us the ropes. Sometimes rules got ignored, but the longer we gamed, the more we started sticking to the rules. As I understand it, that's how it's happened for decades. Most people didn't pick up a basic box at a toy store - someone introduced them to the hobby and they were shown the ropes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Glade Riven, post: 5485658, member: 86468"] There is also a lot of nostalgia clouding one's vision. For a comparative example, I've met people who insist that the original Transformers show is brilliant and best-thing-ever, and all new Transformer shows are crap. The reality is that the original Transformers show was poorly written and made really cheaply. The production quality for the more recent Transformers shows have improved quite a bit in quality, and so has the writing. I've noticed that while it has been admitted that TSR produced poor quality and unwanted products, these threads pan out the TSR (and Gygax) gold but leave the waste material behind when it comes to newer editions. A lot of talk in this thread is about house-rules or ignoring rules you don't like that were put there for a reason or whatever. [I]You can do that in 3.5, 4e, and Pathfinder.[/I] When I was introduced to 3.5, I didn't read through all the rules and the entire 3.5 PHB. I skimmed through, found something that sounded interesting to play, and learned how things worked at the table. That's how other new players in my last group got started. We got hooked on a character concept, and then just started to play. Other D&Ders were there to show us the ropes. Sometimes rules got ignored, but the longer we gamed, the more we started sticking to the rules. As I understand it, that's how it's happened for decades. Most people didn't pick up a basic box at a toy store - someone introduced them to the hobby and they were shown the ropes. [/QUOTE]
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