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<blockquote data-quote="Obryn" data-source="post: 4352261" data-attributes="member: 11821">I think you're stretching.Look back at 1e and 2e.&nbsp; Even better, look back at RC D&amp;D.&nbsp; Lots of stuff is left open and nebulous.&nbsp; Like, tons, actually.&nbsp; 1e wasn't clear at all in many, many situations, and groups were generally left to figure out &amp; interpret the rules for themselves.&nbsp; (I think probably less than 5% of all groups actually used the AD&amp;D combat rules as-written, including segments, weapon speeds, and weapon-vs-armor tables.)&nbsp; Depending on who you talk to, this was either their greatest strength or their greatest weakness.&nbsp; Amazingly enough, there was still plentiful rules-lawyering here, mitigated only by the lack of a popular internet.Look at 3e.&nbsp; 3e tried to nail everything down.&nbsp; Nevertheless, there was tons of rules-lawyering and rule arguments, as you well know.&nbsp; Like, gads.&nbsp; Oodles.&nbsp; The internet propelled this to stratospheric levels.&nbsp; And you should also know that RAI was hardly a trump card in 3e rules discussions.So... we have 3+ nebulous editions and 1 pretty concrete one.&nbsp; Rules lawyering &amp; arguments happened in all of them.&nbsp; It's almost like it's a trait of gamers, isn't it?-O</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Obryn, post: 4352261, member: 11821"] I think you're stretching. Look back at 1e and 2e. Even better, look back at RC D&D. Lots of stuff is left open and nebulous. Like, tons, actually. 1e wasn't clear at all in many, many situations, and groups were generally left to figure out & interpret the rules for themselves. (I think probably less than 5% of all groups actually used the AD&D combat rules as-written, including segments, weapon speeds, and weapon-vs-armor tables.) Depending on who you talk to, this was either their greatest strength or their greatest weakness. Amazingly enough, there was still plentiful rules-lawyering here, mitigated only by the lack of a popular internet. Look at 3e. 3e tried to nail everything down. Nevertheless, there was tons of rules-lawyering and rule arguments, as you well know. Like, gads. Oodles. The internet propelled this to stratospheric levels. And you should also know that RAI was hardly a trump card in 3e rules discussions. So... we have 3+ nebulous editions and 1 pretty concrete one. Rules lawyering & arguments happened in all of them. It's almost like it's a trait of gamers, isn't it? -O [/QUOTE]

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