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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Razz" data-source="post: 3371133" data-attributes="member: 3014">Um, duh. A 10th level fighter is a powerhouse, 15th level a legend, 20th level a supreme master...21st and beyond just the stuff for epic tales. A 10th level should be able to take down several, if not dozens, of 1st levels. It's up to the 1st levels to figure out how to take down the 10th level guy. Um, dude, it's called multiclassing or placing your points in cross-class skills. Simple. It's also the DMs call on that. A proper DM would not allow a character who has been in a desert for the entire quest to place like 6 ranks in Swim so suddenly, for example. Also, the wizard, if the character is "Role Playing" and not "Roll Playing" should take a level of Ranger or Scout.</blockquote>So what doy uo propose? A d30?  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> I'm confused. What's the problem here? You made a statement, you haven't stated what the problem was, though.Er, this is more of a home rules issue than a D&D issue. Try a different system if you don't like D&D's.So play old school D&D, then. I happen to like the system as it is. I have a few problems with it, but I am sorry to say that the PERFECT gaming system does not exist and never will. Make some house rules and enjoy your D&D game. The End.[/QUOTE]