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<blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 3547159" data-attributes="member: 4134">You're just not trying hard enough. Or you have something basically wrong.I have run, and been in, numerous games, and I have yet to see elves becoming (or being) fascists that want to destroy all other races, except maybe orcs (but then again, everyone would like to do that, including some orcs)Note that this is the thread starter's opinion, not the core D&amp;D assumption. They might be somewhat aloof (out of synch with the other races, who die way too quickly), but not necessarily hostile towards other races - not any more than other races, like humans or dwarves.Tolkien depicted elves as superior to humans in most ways, but still they didn't want to exterminate everything, and in fact, they didn't manage to hold on to their dominant position.Being able to use weapons doesn't really mean that you use them to slaughter innocents. After all, several classes get proficiency in those weapons and a host of others as well. Dwarves, for example, have fighter as favoured weapon, and are usually said to be mor eof the physical persuasion, so quite a lot of dwarves will be able to use martial weapons, too. They don't go around exterminating everyone else.Defending your home against invaders doesn't make you a fascistNow, there you completely lose me. being able to do something doesn't mean that you are forced to do it. Because of one person's answer? Come on, you don't mean that. If I hated everything that someone depicted in a way I don't like, I'd hate every single race and class in D&amp;D, D&amp;D in general (and most aspects in general), roleplaying (and all games), just about every concept and ideology ever presented to me, and, beyond that, pretty much everything. I don't, and I don't.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kae'Yoss, post: 3547159, member: 4134"] You're just not trying hard enough. Or you have something basically wrong. I have run, and been in, numerous games, and I have yet to see elves becoming (or being) fascists that want to destroy all other races, except maybe orcs (but then again, everyone would like to do that, including some orcs) Note that this is the thread starter's opinion, not the core D&D assumption. They might be somewhat aloof (out of synch with the other races, who die way too quickly), but not necessarily hostile towards other races - not any more than other races, like humans or dwarves. Tolkien depicted elves as superior to humans in most ways, but still they didn't want to exterminate everything, and in fact, they didn't manage to hold on to their dominant position. Being able to use weapons doesn't really mean that you use them to slaughter innocents. After all, several classes get proficiency in those weapons and a host of others as well. Dwarves, for example, have fighter as favoured weapon, and are usually said to be mor eof the physical persuasion, so quite a lot of dwarves will be able to use martial weapons, too. They don't go around exterminating everyone else. Defending your home against invaders doesn't make you a fascist Now, there you completely lose me. being able to do something doesn't mean that you are forced to do it. Because of one person's answer? Come on, you don't mean that. If I hated everything that someone depicted in a way I don't like, I'd hate every single race and class in D&D, D&D in general (and most aspects in general), roleplaying (and all games), just about every concept and ideology ever presented to me, and, beyond that, pretty much everything. I don't, and I don't. [/QUOTE]

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