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<blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 3549144" data-attributes="member: 4134"><p>I wouldn't say that other races will attack elves because elves are immune to flea bites and such. They might covet their land and the resources to be found there, but to go to war over things you can't take for yourself is a sure sign of insanity, and not everyone is that messed up in the head.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Come on, if that were true, adventuring as we know it in D&D wouldn't exist at all.</p><p></p><p>I have played many characters with abilities the other party members didn't had, and they didn't resent my character for it. </p><p></p><p>I played an elf that was immune to sleep and needed only 4 hours of sleep per night, but the other characters didn't resent him for it.</p><p></p><p>Right now I play a dwarf priest that has the power to heal even the most grievous wounds, protect himself and others from all kinds of harm, and turn himself into a 70-foot juggernaut of destruction that can pound balors into the dust within one round. The others don't envy or resent me.</p><p></p><p>Another character in that party has the ability to blast away with destructive magic for long stretches of time, obliterating great numbers of enemies with each attack. He can also take down a solar from full to far negative with a single spell. I don't resent him, and neither do the other characters.</p><p></p><p>Yet another character in that party has wings, so he can fly all the time, not the couple of rounds or minutes we others can achieve with our magic (and some can't do it at all).</p><p></p><p></p><p>While it is true that some will resent others for powers they don't possess themselves, but it's not universal. </p><p></p><p>And what of the other races? You said that dwarves can breathe a great number of gases beyond "normal air", which I guess isn't their only special ability, nor do I believe that the rest of the races got nothing. Why doesn't anyone resent them?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah! Forget storms of vengeance, meteor swarms. or troups of elite warriors. Green Slime will Overcome All.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I still can't see how elves must be hopeless pacifists and that humans have the monopoly on war.</p><p></p><p>Even if they value life and nurture sick bird babies back to health and all that, it doesn't mean that they will never kill, even if their denial will cause more carnage. So those humans or orcs or any other race or group invade the forest, needlessly killing trees and woodland critters and elves? They must be stopped, for they don't rever life, so they must be stopped at every cost. Doing so will protect those who can't protect themselves and will, ultimately, be pro life.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, they didn't. Humans did not, at this point, even exist, if I recall correctly. If they changed to become like something else, they became more like the Black Foe and his followers.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not necessarily orcs. Orcs were badly made, they could not stand up against the Noldor even if the Noldor were exhausted, surprised, and outnumbered. It was more the other creatures Morgoth made or recruited, like balrogs and dragons.</p><p></p><p>Humans wouldn't have fared better against that onslought.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm still not convinced that they "played human". </p><p></p><p>And it doesn't matter in the end, because you don't have to copy this part of those D&D settings.</p><p></p><p>And it's not all settings that have this tendency, either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kae'Yoss, post: 3549144, member: 4134"] I wouldn't say that other races will attack elves because elves are immune to flea bites and such. They might covet their land and the resources to be found there, but to go to war over things you can't take for yourself is a sure sign of insanity, and not everyone is that messed up in the head. Come on, if that were true, adventuring as we know it in D&D wouldn't exist at all. I have played many characters with abilities the other party members didn't had, and they didn't resent my character for it. I played an elf that was immune to sleep and needed only 4 hours of sleep per night, but the other characters didn't resent him for it. Right now I play a dwarf priest that has the power to heal even the most grievous wounds, protect himself and others from all kinds of harm, and turn himself into a 70-foot juggernaut of destruction that can pound balors into the dust within one round. The others don't envy or resent me. Another character in that party has the ability to blast away with destructive magic for long stretches of time, obliterating great numbers of enemies with each attack. He can also take down a solar from full to far negative with a single spell. I don't resent him, and neither do the other characters. Yet another character in that party has wings, so he can fly all the time, not the couple of rounds or minutes we others can achieve with our magic (and some can't do it at all). While it is true that some will resent others for powers they don't possess themselves, but it's not universal. And what of the other races? You said that dwarves can breathe a great number of gases beyond "normal air", which I guess isn't their only special ability, nor do I believe that the rest of the races got nothing. Why doesn't anyone resent them? Yeah! Forget storms of vengeance, meteor swarms. or troups of elite warriors. Green Slime will Overcome All. I still can't see how elves must be hopeless pacifists and that humans have the monopoly on war. Even if they value life and nurture sick bird babies back to health and all that, it doesn't mean that they will never kill, even if their denial will cause more carnage. So those humans or orcs or any other race or group invade the forest, needlessly killing trees and woodland critters and elves? They must be stopped, for they don't rever life, so they must be stopped at every cost. Doing so will protect those who can't protect themselves and will, ultimately, be pro life. No, they didn't. Humans did not, at this point, even exist, if I recall correctly. If they changed to become like something else, they became more like the Black Foe and his followers. Not necessarily orcs. Orcs were badly made, they could not stand up against the Noldor even if the Noldor were exhausted, surprised, and outnumbered. It was more the other creatures Morgoth made or recruited, like balrogs and dragons. Humans wouldn't have fared better against that onslought. I'm still not convinced that they "played human". And it doesn't matter in the end, because you don't have to copy this part of those D&D settings. And it's not all settings that have this tendency, either. [/QUOTE]
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