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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 3549823" data-attributes="member: 177">Hm.&nbsp; Well, the #1 way for elves to be viable would be for the DM to not stack the deck so horribly against them.&nbsp; But, barring that...Biological warfare - all those things the elves are immune to can be rendered into passive weapons.&nbsp; If they can manage the rationalization of defensive systems (I am not directly harming them with my own hands, and they are only harmed if they come after me anyway), then they can be made safe - there's only so many spells avialiable to cure disease and poison, right?When you can't beat 'em, join 'em - interbreeding.&nbsp; Since they're all comely, they can do the trick of Tolkien elves, interbreeding with humans so all the human ruling lines have some elven blood, so that those nations have similar prhibitions against spilling elven blood.When in dou bt, cheat - rewite the rules in game.&nbsp; The idea that &quot;these powers don't work against X, or in this other environment,&quot; is only for those without imagination. Get whatever preternatual power gave them all these abilities on their side.&nbsp;&nbsp; Talk to the god, or do magical research, to extend those powers so that they do work against X.&nbsp; And, by the way, Edena, if you have a preferred solution to your question, please just get it out now.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 3549823, member: 177"] Hm. Well, the #1 way for elves to be viable would be for the DM to not stack the deck so horribly against them. But, barring that... Biological warfare - all those things the elves are immune to can be rendered into passive weapons. If they can manage the rationalization of defensive systems (I am not directly harming them with my own hands, and they are only harmed if they come after me anyway), then they can be made safe - there's only so many spells avialiable to cure disease and poison, right? When you can't beat 'em, join 'em - interbreeding. Since they're all comely, they can do the trick of Tolkien elves, interbreeding with humans so all the human ruling lines have some elven blood, so that those nations have similar prhibitions against spilling elven blood. When in dou bt, cheat - rewite the rules in game. The idea that "these powers don't work against X, or in this other environment," is only for those without imagination. Get whatever preternatual power gave them all these abilities on their side. Talk to the god, or do magical research, to extend those powers so that they do work against X. And, by the way, Edena, if you have a preferred solution to your question, please just get it out now. [/QUOTE]

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