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The problem with elves take 2: A severe condemnation [merged]
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<blockquote data-quote="WayneLigon" data-source="post: 3570486" data-attributes="member: 3649"><p>You're doomed to a thankless task, then, since there is no 'reality' to the D&D game mechanics by themselves. They are the barest of bones that you have to flesh out. A good chunk of the rules work the way they work for convience and balance's sake, not from any passing attempt at modeling reality. You have to provide the common sense part of that equation.</p><p></p><p>The settings are meaningless as far as you creating the race of elves the way you want. Junk Faerun, forget Tolkien, burn Greyhawk. You can do any damn thing you want, and to hell with what some setting came up with. Forget the bizarro third party spells, most of which are just in there to pad out the product and don't look at any of the spell lists as the sum total available to the races. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why should elves have human psychology? In most of the campaigns I've done, I'd go one of two ways to the problem you mention above: </p><p></p><p>Elves, due to their long lives, simply don't let things 'get' to them like humans do. They don't collapse from stress save stress that would kill a human. They don't go mad; in fact, they're incapable of that kind of madness. An elf subjected to hundreds of years of war would finally 'tire' and one day he'd walk into the woods and never be seen again by mortal eyes, but he wouldn't go mad. </p><p></p><p>Or, Elves, due to their long lives, forget much easier than humans do. Five years is like a passing dream to an elf, one he will forget soon enough. A hundred years of war is endurable to an elf because he's forgotten all but the last couple of years. </p><p></p><p>In our real world, there are psychological types called 'invulnerables', people who do not succumb to stresses that would break the spirit of another person. They can endure tremedous continual stress and be no more affected than a person whose worst care is making it to the movie in time for the good previews. No-one knows why they're like this, but they are. Maybe all elves are like that?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WayneLigon, post: 3570486, member: 3649"] You're doomed to a thankless task, then, since there is no 'reality' to the D&D game mechanics by themselves. They are the barest of bones that you have to flesh out. A good chunk of the rules work the way they work for convience and balance's sake, not from any passing attempt at modeling reality. You have to provide the common sense part of that equation. The settings are meaningless as far as you creating the race of elves the way you want. Junk Faerun, forget Tolkien, burn Greyhawk. You can do any damn thing you want, and to hell with what some setting came up with. Forget the bizarro third party spells, most of which are just in there to pad out the product and don't look at any of the spell lists as the sum total available to the races. Why should elves have human psychology? In most of the campaigns I've done, I'd go one of two ways to the problem you mention above: Elves, due to their long lives, simply don't let things 'get' to them like humans do. They don't collapse from stress save stress that would kill a human. They don't go mad; in fact, they're incapable of that kind of madness. An elf subjected to hundreds of years of war would finally 'tire' and one day he'd walk into the woods and never be seen again by mortal eyes, but he wouldn't go mad. Or, Elves, due to their long lives, forget much easier than humans do. Five years is like a passing dream to an elf, one he will forget soon enough. A hundred years of war is endurable to an elf because he's forgotten all but the last couple of years. In our real world, there are psychological types called 'invulnerables', people who do not succumb to stresses that would break the spirit of another person. They can endure tremedous continual stress and be no more affected than a person whose worst care is making it to the movie in time for the good previews. No-one knows why they're like this, but they are. Maybe all elves are like that? [/QUOTE]
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