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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 3570660" data-attributes="member: 2020"><p>No. I have done no such thing.</p><p> The 1st edition game specified that elves were weak (pathetic, in your words.) Not me. In 1st edition, elves were limited to 11th level as wizards, 9th level as fighters, and they could be thieves or assassins. NPCs could be clerics up to 7th level. Elves could not be druids, rangers, paladins, illusionists, or monks.</p><p> The 1st edition game specifically stated humans were the dominant race. All other races and their doings revolved around the sun of humanity. RAW.</p><p> The 1st edition game specified that humans ruled in most lands, and elves held only small regions, barely hanging on to survival.</p><p></p><p> When 2nd edition came out, the lot of elves improved a bit. But humans still held the edge in the rules, and in the settings.</p><p></p><p> Only with 3rd edition have elves gained the abilities of humans, something that in earlier editions was stated they NEVER should have.</p><p></p><p> If you want to blame someone for the weakness and pathetic (to use your words) nature of elves, blame someone else.</p><p></p><p> As for flighty and frivolous, it's in the 1st Edition Player's Handbook. RAW. Dancing and singing? RAW. Chaotic good? RAW.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 3570660, member: 2020"] No. I have done no such thing. The 1st edition game specified that elves were weak (pathetic, in your words.) Not me. In 1st edition, elves were limited to 11th level as wizards, 9th level as fighters, and they could be thieves or assassins. NPCs could be clerics up to 7th level. Elves could not be druids, rangers, paladins, illusionists, or monks. The 1st edition game specifically stated humans were the dominant race. All other races and their doings revolved around the sun of humanity. RAW. The 1st edition game specified that humans ruled in most lands, and elves held only small regions, barely hanging on to survival. When 2nd edition came out, the lot of elves improved a bit. But humans still held the edge in the rules, and in the settings. Only with 3rd edition have elves gained the abilities of humans, something that in earlier editions was stated they NEVER should have. If you want to blame someone for the weakness and pathetic (to use your words) nature of elves, blame someone else. As for flighty and frivolous, it's in the 1st Edition Player's Handbook. RAW. Dancing and singing? RAW. Chaotic good? RAW. [/QUOTE]
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