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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Banshee16" data-source="post: 3571808" data-attributes="member: 7883">The elves of Dragonlance have definitely received the short end of the stick.  However, I suspect it's because the authors have a goal/story in mind for them than anything else.  And what's written about them in the fiction has very rarely meshed well with what was done in the game.Something to keep in mind is that if you live in North America, most of the forests we see have been logged at some point, so the trees we see today are likely far smaller than they used to be.  Sure sequoias and redwoods are huge, but a 60+ year old oak or maple could likely hold a tree house, and I'm pretty sure they can get a fair bit older and larger than that.  Our cottage has a pine in front of it that's about 50' or so high...well taller than a 2-story building, and the circumference of the trunk is several feet.  Yet I suspect that tree likely isn't *that* old.  Maybe 50 years or so?  They grow fairly fast.  Most of the trees in the area are younger, because it's been logged several times over the hundreds of years that Europeans have inhabited Canada and the U.S.Further, the contention  that you can't get anything useful out of the tree doesn't sound quite right.  The natives who were there before the Europeans made weapons and armor from wood, stone, and bone.  The wooden armor *was* effective against muscle powered weapons.  They ceased using it when firearms entered the equation.  But given firearms aren't really used much in core D&D, and aren't available in some campaign worlds (ie. DL, BR, EB, etc.) then the armor becomes a valid choice.  Likely not as good as iron weapons....but as far as we know, it was good enough to allow the natives of the east coast to drive off Vikings, who had access to steel weapons and armor.Interesting ideas......how many elven spellcasters would be of the correct level to cast that spell, I don't know.  But it's an interesting idea.But it would jive with the idea of them being a race that has uses a lot of magic.  Maybe they don't use fireballs very often, but are experts at using stuff like the mansion spells, plant growth, and other things that have a direct utility in everyday life.Again, a lot of that is high level magic....and if the elves have relatively small populations, do they have enough high-level spellcasters to do what they need?Banshee</blockquote>

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