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<blockquote data-quote="Banshee16" data-source="post: 3573231" data-attributes="member: 7883"><p>Now these are some statements that make sense. I won't argue with you on the idea that they're often depicted as on the retreat. However. I would like to point out that the novels are very, very different than the game itself. Writer prerogative allows a writer to basically say what they want. And a lot of standard fantasy is very derivative of Tolkien...hence the elves in retreat. But it's not necessarily that way in the game, as the rules don't dictate that this is the way of things. Some settings do....but we're getting back to whether things are derivative of Tolkien.</p><p></p><p>Rajaat and his Champions hunted the elves....but they didn't succeed in exterminating them. They were one of the demihuman races to escape extinction, unlike the gnomes. DL's take on what's happened to the elves is just weird. I hope there's a plan for them. But who knows?</p><p></p><p>FR? The elves were in Retreat, but that's now over. And as of the novels Evermeet, and then the elven trilogy a year or two ago, they've established a new hidden colony, with a tree of life or whatever, that will assist them in establishing a strong realm armed with High Magic, and they used an army of thousands of elven heroes to reconquer Cormanthor, and reestablish Myth Drannor....coming back to the example of a long-lived race having hundreds of high-level or even medium-level regular citizens.</p><p></p><p>So now, the fiction isn't entirely making them a bunch of losers. Maybe they'll be a little less similar to the retreating elves of Tolkien.</p><p></p><p>Banshee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Banshee16, post: 3573231, member: 7883"] Now these are some statements that make sense. I won't argue with you on the idea that they're often depicted as on the retreat. However. I would like to point out that the novels are very, very different than the game itself. Writer prerogative allows a writer to basically say what they want. And a lot of standard fantasy is very derivative of Tolkien...hence the elves in retreat. But it's not necessarily that way in the game, as the rules don't dictate that this is the way of things. Some settings do....but we're getting back to whether things are derivative of Tolkien. Rajaat and his Champions hunted the elves....but they didn't succeed in exterminating them. They were one of the demihuman races to escape extinction, unlike the gnomes. DL's take on what's happened to the elves is just weird. I hope there's a plan for them. But who knows? FR? The elves were in Retreat, but that's now over. And as of the novels Evermeet, and then the elven trilogy a year or two ago, they've established a new hidden colony, with a tree of life or whatever, that will assist them in establishing a strong realm armed with High Magic, and they used an army of thousands of elven heroes to reconquer Cormanthor, and reestablish Myth Drannor....coming back to the example of a long-lived race having hundreds of high-level or even medium-level regular citizens. So now, the fiction isn't entirely making them a bunch of losers. Maybe they'll be a little less similar to the retreating elves of Tolkien. Banshee [/QUOTE]
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