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The problem with elves take 2: A severe condemnation [merged]
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<blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 3573820" data-attributes="member: 30001"><p>Maybe every <em>infant</em>, but children are as capable of many tasks - for example collecting mulberry leaves for silk production. I happen to like the idea of a variety of silk being produced by elves because they seem to wear a lot of it and it would be fairly easy to posit a silkworm or similar creature that lives in the elfin environment.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why don't elves do anything inherently better? Just because they don't get bonuses? It's already been argued several times that you couldn't explain the existence of human cultures based on the PHB. It would be safe to assume that the average steppe nomad is a better rider than the average farmer, and yet the rules don't make that explicit. There are other ways to model a higher skill level in a certain culture other than just mindless throwing bonuses at them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Disease is as much (or more) a function of hygiene, medicine, and genetics - elves could more than compensate for their con scores. Besides, even various human populations show different susceptibility to disease - and that's not a function of constitution but of biological factors. I think you think disease has much more to do with Con than it really does.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How much more caffeine do I need to understand that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Don't forget my exaggerations. How about this exaggeration: a pointy-eared humanoid that lives to be 1000 years old. Keep in mind we're talking imaginary fantasy worlds.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly - which is one of the basic reasons why there are elves in DnD and not in the real world.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gizmo33, post: 3573820, member: 30001"] Maybe every [i]infant[/i], but children are as capable of many tasks - for example collecting mulberry leaves for silk production. I happen to like the idea of a variety of silk being produced by elves because they seem to wear a lot of it and it would be fairly easy to posit a silkworm or similar creature that lives in the elfin environment. Why don't elves do anything inherently better? Just because they don't get bonuses? It's already been argued several times that you couldn't explain the existence of human cultures based on the PHB. It would be safe to assume that the average steppe nomad is a better rider than the average farmer, and yet the rules don't make that explicit. There are other ways to model a higher skill level in a certain culture other than just mindless throwing bonuses at them. Disease is as much (or more) a function of hygiene, medicine, and genetics - elves could more than compensate for their con scores. Besides, even various human populations show different susceptibility to disease - and that's not a function of constitution but of biological factors. I think you think disease has much more to do with Con than it really does. How much more caffeine do I need to understand that. :confused: Don't forget my exaggerations. How about this exaggeration: a pointy-eared humanoid that lives to be 1000 years old. Keep in mind we're talking imaginary fantasy worlds. Exactly - which is one of the basic reasons why there are elves in DnD and not in the real world. [/QUOTE]
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