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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 3574721" data-attributes="member: 2020">Thanks for the compliment on the Mordenkainen's Magnificent Mansion idea.  I would give credit to the creative people who thought up that spell, and the person who mentioned that the elves have a variant of it.  I like the idea of an 'elvish identity.'  The 3.0 and 3.5 Player's Handbook leaves it up to the DM and players to decide what this is.  And that's ok.  That's fine.  It just happens to be my personal take that the Player's Handbook should offer an 'elvish identity' pre-made.  (Ditto the other non-human races.)  And back it up with advantages and disadvantages for the elves, including extraordinary and supernatural powers (such as Agnakok abilities.)  Or, perhaps, multiple takes on elves should be offered.  Yes, I realize that there are only so many pages in the PHB.  But there is always smaller font (even if you eventually need a microscope x40 magnification to read the PHB! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ) to cram more Fluff and Crunch on elves into.    And nobody has to use any of it.  They can make up their own elves.  The PHB would simply offer suggestions and ideas.  We all know, for example, how the *drow* are.  Goodness gracious, do we know.  It's not in the RAW, but ask anyone about drow, and they'll have a lot to say on the subject.  I honestly do not think we'd be having a discussion (or argument) of this magnitude, concerning the drow.  We know them too well.  We are in agreement on too much about them.  Elves seem to be more nebulous.  Paradoxical, considering the colossal amount of material written about elves, the colossal number of books, and so on.    Point to the drow, and most agree on them.  Point to the elves, and people disagree a lot.  The PHB needs to help us, with it's own templates for 'elvish identities.'  Just my opinion.</blockquote>

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