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<blockquote data-quote="Derren" data-source="post: 3575583" data-attributes="member: 2518"><p>1. Look at D&D elves</p><p>2. Look at LotR elves</p><p>3. Look at old D&D books were halflings are called hobbits</p><p>4. think about this connection.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Where is the proof that it isn't because of this? You know somthing like personal opinion does exist...</p><p></p><p>Why don't you explain how elves who do not clear woods, mostly depend on hunting/gathering and do not have a big population can get much iron, mithral, mercury, silver, salt and all other ressources? Even if they do mine which goes against their society/lifestyle they do not have the supply chain needed for big mining operation which are also static and do not fit very well to a hunter/gatherer society.</p><p></p><p>This is actually a proof for above. You see it as single issue. Elves need ressource x, y, z. Forests can have (low) quanitities of x and y. Conclusion Elves can get all ressources they need out of a forest. But you waste no time to think about what is needed to mine those ressources and what it means to the elven society.</p><p></p><p>So elves would let other nations into their forest to protect their trade routes? Do you know how those problems were handeled in the real world? Each nation protects the trade route on its own side of the border. If one nation fails to protect them adequatly the other nation seeks a other trading partner or source of that resource.</p><p></p><p>And you really should real the Elf entry in the PHB especially the part of "Elven Lands".</p><p></p><p>Again PHB "Elven Lands". This little paragraph supports a lot of my assumptions. Most elves live in small woodland communities, they do not farm but hunt and gather, they have little contact with outsiders and they have no interest in mining so they have to trade for iron. And its all in a Core book.</p><p></p><p>And now explain to me how such a community would withstand the repeated assault of orcs or worse Hobgoblins (stronger than orcs, expert tacticans and they hate elves with a passion) when they can breed multiple times faster than elves?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Derren, post: 3575583, member: 2518"] 1. Look at D&D elves 2. Look at LotR elves 3. Look at old D&D books were halflings are called hobbits 4. think about this connection. Where is the proof that it isn't because of this? You know somthing like personal opinion does exist... Why don't you explain how elves who do not clear woods, mostly depend on hunting/gathering and do not have a big population can get much iron, mithral, mercury, silver, salt and all other ressources? Even if they do mine which goes against their society/lifestyle they do not have the supply chain needed for big mining operation which are also static and do not fit very well to a hunter/gatherer society. This is actually a proof for above. You see it as single issue. Elves need ressource x, y, z. Forests can have (low) quanitities of x and y. Conclusion Elves can get all ressources they need out of a forest. But you waste no time to think about what is needed to mine those ressources and what it means to the elven society. So elves would let other nations into their forest to protect their trade routes? Do you know how those problems were handeled in the real world? Each nation protects the trade route on its own side of the border. If one nation fails to protect them adequatly the other nation seeks a other trading partner or source of that resource. And you really should real the Elf entry in the PHB especially the part of "Elven Lands". Again PHB "Elven Lands". This little paragraph supports a lot of my assumptions. Most elves live in small woodland communities, they do not farm but hunt and gather, they have little contact with outsiders and they have no interest in mining so they have to trade for iron. And its all in a Core book. And now explain to me how such a community would withstand the repeated assault of orcs or worse Hobgoblins (stronger than orcs, expert tacticans and they hate elves with a passion) when they can breed multiple times faster than elves? [/QUOTE]
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