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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jim Hague" data-source="post: 3575718" data-attributes="member: 17550">You make the claims, you provide the proof.  Since you can't or aren't willing to provide such proof, your claims remain suspect.Except that elves in Eberron, Greyhawk and FR don't follow the PHB pattern.  3:1 against doesn't make your point, and provides extensive support against it.Nor does slavish repetition that because the PHB says elves are one way make it true.  There is no 'D&D setting', not in the PHB, nor in the DMG.  Therefore your claims are, again, false.Condescension isn't a very good tactic to take, especially when you have yet to provide real proof of your claims.  I'm changing nothing, simply quoting the selfsame rules you're looking at and pointing out the flaws in your arguments.Nobody's recalculating anything, Derren.  Where are you getting this from?  You're the one drawing spurious conclusions here, not me.In what campaign world?  Where do the books say this?  Nowhere?  Exactly - you're making this up.Tell you what, slick - when you have well over $3000 in just D&D material, then you can tell me to go read something.  I'm not the one making unsupported claims here - you are.Trained in weaponry means combat training in D&D.  Typically, non-military members of a community with combat training are referred to as militia.  Nowehere does it say that elves grow more slowly than any other race, only that they reach full maturity at 110, according to the PHB.Those human wizards die off much more quickly...better hope they wrote all their knowledge down somewhere.  And once again, you're pulling numbers out of thin air.  How many humans?  How many elves?  You don't know, because there are no numbers to support your claim.And now you're back to the unsupported hunter-gatherer nonsense.  Why is it so important for you to cling to this image you have in your head of how elves 'should' be, especially in light of all the evidence to the contrary?</blockquote>

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