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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Derren" data-source="post: 3575733" data-attributes="member: 2518">Completly, utterly wrong. The setting presented in the core books (which uses mostly Greyhawk material) is the default D&D setting. All other settings are exceptions to the normal behaviour/rules.You do not point out flaws, you just refuse to proof your points while constantly demanding that I post more proofes which you do not read anyway?.Are you really demnanding that the exisetance of bandits who try to rob wealthy merchants has to be specifically mentioned in a book, otherwise it does not exist? ROFL, now you are downright silly. I guess there are a lot of things which do not exist in your D&D worlds. Air for example (unless in elemental form).And you are still unable to open the PHB and MM to read the proof I am constantly bringing up? You are able to read, are you?Trainind in D&D means no -4 nonprofiency penalty when using the weapon. That is all what elves get. No warrior BAB, no warrior HP and armor profiency. And elves do need 100 or so years to grwo up. Before that they are unable to get any class level and so are rather useless.Do the terms "Logical thinking" and "conclusion" have a meaning for you? Faster breeding age + more organized farming/resource gathering methods -> more individuals. More individuals -> more exceptional individuals. More exceptional individuals -> more PC classes. More PC classes -> more wizards.Human wizards die much earlier than elves, yes. But humans also train new wizards much faster than elves. By the time a elf gets his first wizard level a human born at the same time has already reached his highest level as wizard, crafted some items and probably died of old age. He also maybe had severall offsprings which in turn might now be successfull mid to high level wizards which also crafted some items and had children themself.Please. READ THE PHB!!!!! It is in there black on white that elves are hunter gatherers. That is how D&D elves live. That is how WotC envisions elves to be.Instead of constantly accusing me of making unsupported claims you should start to actually read the proof I bring up. Elves live mostly in forests, its in teh PHB. Elves are hunter-gatherers, its in the PHB. There are several evil, fast breeding races which despise elves, it is in the MM. The racial god or orcs is a mortal enemy to the racial god of elves it is in the PHB.READ IT!@ All othersAm I really unreasonable when I expect that things which are written in the core books are sufficient as basis for my assumptions or as basis for a discussion of D&D races in general?</blockquote>

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