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<blockquote data-quote="Edena_of_Neith" data-source="post: 3577829" data-attributes="member: 2020">Ok ... but ... consider what you're getting into here.&nbsp; So far, we have only been discussing elves.&nbsp; If we bring all of the rest in, we are discussing the viability of the entire campaign setting itself.&nbsp; The core rules - PHB, DMG, and MM - do not create campaign settings.&nbsp; So we must now go to the core 3E settings.&nbsp; In which case, we must decide which books represent the 'core' settings and which do not.&nbsp; Or perhaps all of them do?&nbsp; If we try to discuss the settings without doing that, or discuss house settings, on what basis are we discussing these things?&nbsp; The DM in question of that particular setting must set down the rules and realities of his or her setting, before we can discuss them, no?&nbsp; Unless you have a way of discussing it within the context of the core rules (PHB, DMG, and MM) only.&nbsp; If you do, explain, because how to discuss an entire campaign based on just those is over my head.&nbsp; Do I believe the rest of the campaign counts?&nbsp; Is relevant?&nbsp; Is relevant to the elves?&nbsp; Yes, yes, and a big yes.&nbsp; Of course they do.&nbsp; I just don't know how to bring all these variables into the discussion, how to approach them, without hopelessly muddling things.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Edena_of_Neith, post: 3577829, member: 2020"] Ok ... but ... consider what you're getting into here. So far, we have only been discussing elves. If we bring all of the rest in, we are discussing the viability of the entire campaign setting itself. The core rules - PHB, DMG, and MM - do not create campaign settings. So we must now go to the core 3E settings. In which case, we must decide which books represent the 'core' settings and which do not. Or perhaps all of them do? If we try to discuss the settings without doing that, or discuss house settings, on what basis are we discussing these things? The DM in question of that particular setting must set down the rules and realities of his or her setting, before we can discuss them, no? Unless you have a way of discussing it within the context of the core rules (PHB, DMG, and MM) only. If you do, explain, because how to discuss an entire campaign based on just those is over my head. Do I believe the rest of the campaign counts? Is relevant? Is relevant to the elves? Yes, yes, and a big yes. Of course they do. I just don't know how to bring all these variables into the discussion, how to approach them, without hopelessly muddling things. [/QUOTE]

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