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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DM-Rocco" data-source="post: 3588239" data-attributes="member: 14451">mmadsen is right, you don't seem to see that the PHB gives the basic stats for a member of that race, not a setting or situational basis..I think though, that this is different than the original post.  In the original post you make it seem as if all elves are destined to die because they lack the knowledge and the resources to survive in the world.  What you failed to mention is that you are referring to a home-brew world, or your version of the Greyhawk setting.Of course, if the lands have been ravaged by war, the soil salted, the water poisoned, etc. then yes, things will be harsh if not down right impossible for the remaining elves to eek out a living.  However, such a large scale war has problems in and of itself.  The numbers of troops that you would require to inflict such devastation would be beyond almost all counting.  Such a force of arms would take tons of food from the human lands, more then could be grown in a year since some of the farmers would have been conscripted into service.  That is, unless it was the armies of the dead, who don't need to eat.  The point is, <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> for tat.  Now your humans can't eek out a good living either and stop all wars because they too have poisoned water, salted farm land, etc.  I don't know the whole history of Greyhawk, but it sounds as if you have invented much of this history yourself for your world or based on your past campaigns.  I stand by my original post concerning most elves in a normal setting.  It is clear now that you are not talking about a normal setting.  In this case, I can't really even comment further because I don't have the knowledge of your world or your elves or the numbers and classes and levels of the surviving elves.  If you are looking for a way for the elves to survive under these conditions, then I would need to know the lay of the land, the surrounding lands, relations with the surrounding lands, what exists for natural resources, exactly what they currently import and export, how many elves are in the forest, how many clerics, fighters, mages, rogues, npc classes, etc., what creatures and animals dwell in the forest, what levels, who is their leader, what allies they have, what current enemies., you get the point.You are not looking for a justification that elves are destined to die in a regular setting as first believed, you are asking, how can these elves in my home-brew world survive because they got screwed by war?</blockquote>

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