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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jim Hague" data-source="post: 3592076" data-attributes="member: 17550">And pretty much confined to that, since you've stacked the deck against them...Nope.  Once again, despite multiple posts to the contrary, you're viewing it through your own fractured logic and not the actual rules or settings.  Elves seem to be doing quite well in the majority of settings, canon and not.  Of course, since you keep cherry picking your facts, you claim the contrary...even if it isn't true at all.Heaven forfend that writers write elves in some way other than Tolkien did.  And here you're contradicting yourself...again.  First they're doomed, then they're having a 'lousy time', then you admit that it's just your own interpretation that flies in the face of contradicting and frankly more persuasive facts.But wait, this is just a set up for...This is a load of hooey.  Dozens of posters have repeatedly provided contraevidence to your claims, but you stick to your thesis despite that.  And implied in real world history?  Really?  Now you're claiming that there were elves on Earth?  And I'm sorry, but fantasy histories are not necessarily some outgrowth of real history.  And, of course, as with most of your posts, you contradict yourself again - DMs have elves that survive...but you, with your self-professed insight into the minds of said DMs, claim that elves are doomed.   Again.You need to face a bit of reality here - you've built up their bizarre and unsupported (outside of your campaign) idea that elves are doomed.  You started multiple threads, posted long, rambling and often incoherent claims to 'support' that, but in the end the weight of evidence is well stacked against the house of cards you've built.  Elves are doomed in your setting, and I'm sure that's very dramatic, tragic and sad...but your campaign isn't any others'.  Stop claiming it is.Not in all campaigns, sorry.</blockquote>

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