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<blockquote data-quote="Magister Ludorum" data-source="post: 8327944" data-attributes="member: 6862253">The problem with threads like this is that the argument devolves into two main camps.<ol>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">Without alignment, you can't tell the difference between good and evil.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">Alignment doesn't work and has no place in the game.</li>
</ol>I'm calling shenanigans on both arguments.<ol>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">You can easily run a game without alignment. Lots of us do. It's not hard to tell who the antagonists are.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">Alignment works perfectly well at many tables. Every table decides for themselves what it means. I don't use alignment per se but I will often us the published alignment as a guideline to make a more nuanced story for myself. I stopped using it in high school (back in 1982, after 4 years of playing and GMing), but most of the GMs who run games I'm in use it to one extent or another. We all knew what it meant.</li>
</ol>Not everyone falls in one of these two camps, but many do. The very title of the thread states that &quot;there's a problem&quot; when we don't use alignment.For Dog's sake can't we just agree that alignment works for those who want to use it, and that it's not necessary for those of us who don't?It's an ill-kept secret that different tables play different ways.[Edited because I hit post too quickly the first time around.]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Magister Ludorum, post: 8327944, member: 6862253"] The problem with threads like this is that the argument devolves into two main camps. [LIST=1] [*]Without alignment, you can't tell the difference between good and evil. [*]Alignment doesn't work and has no place in the game. [/LIST] I'm calling shenanigans on both arguments. [LIST=1] [*]You can easily run a game without alignment. Lots of us do. It's not hard to tell who the antagonists are. [*]Alignment works perfectly well at many tables. Every table decides for themselves what it means. I don't use alignment [I]per se[/I] but I will often us the published alignment as a guideline to make a more nuanced story for myself. I stopped using it in high school (back in 1982, after 4 years of playing and GMing), but most of the GMs who run games I'm in use it to one extent or another. We all knew what it meant. [/LIST] Not everyone falls in one of these two camps, but many do. The very title of the thread states that "there's a problem" when we don't use alignment. For Dog's sake can't we just agree that alignment works for those who want to use it, and that it's not necessary for those of us who don't? It's an ill-kept secret that different tables play different ways. [Edited because I hit post too quickly the first time around.] [/QUOTE]

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