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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8328414" data-attributes="member: 23751">What's wrong with fluff produced by using CG as a guide to roleplaying my character?&nbsp; What's wrong with the fluff produced as the DM by using alignment as a starting point for how I run NPCs and monsters that aren't important enough to warrant detailed write-ups?Asnwer: Nothing.So what.&nbsp; Ignore the clutter and move on.&nbsp; It's not clutter for the majority of us that use it.Would it help to move it to the bottom? I mean, you're reading waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much into it if you think that it's placement is some sort of location of pride, but whatever.&nbsp; since you're wrong about that, move it lower. You can be happy that it's shamed now, and we can still use it just the same as we always did.It also has to be in the monster stat blocks so we can continue to use it for monsters without having to invent alignment for every monster we play with.&nbsp; In 30+ years of play with hundreds of players, not all of which liked alignment, not one of them was so upset by alignment that they had to stop reading when they got to it.&nbsp; Your personal issues with alignment are your own and have no business impacting the rest of us.How does one chapter in a book help me to know what alignment each monster is? A minority of players have enough problems with alignment that they stopped using it.&nbsp; An EXTREME minority of you are so distraught by two words that you go to pieces and have to stop reading.&nbsp; You don't design a game around such an extreme minority of players.&nbsp; You keep saying that as if repetition can somehow alter reality and make it true. It won't ever be true.&nbsp; All it takes is. Orc - Alignment: Chaotic Evil(optional) and you are objectively wrong.&nbsp; Heck, you don't even need to do that.&nbsp; One sentence in the beginning of the MM stating that alignment is completely optional and you're wrong.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8328414, member: 23751"] What's wrong with fluff produced by using CG as a guide to roleplaying my character? What's wrong with the fluff produced as the DM by using alignment as a starting point for how I run NPCs and monsters that aren't important enough to warrant detailed write-ups? Asnwer: Nothing. So what. Ignore the clutter and move on. It's not clutter for the majority of us that use it. Would it help to move it to the bottom? I mean, you're reading waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much into it if you think that it's placement is some sort of location of pride, but whatever. since you're wrong about that, move it lower. You can be happy that it's shamed now, and we can still use it just the same as we always did. It also has to be in the monster stat blocks so we can continue to use it for monsters without having to invent alignment for every monster we play with. In 30+ years of play with hundreds of players, not all of which liked alignment, not one of them was so upset by alignment that they had to stop reading when they got to it. Your personal issues with alignment are your own and have no business impacting the rest of us. How does one chapter in a book help me to know what alignment each monster is? A minority of players have enough problems with alignment that they stopped using it. An EXTREME minority of you are so distraught by two words that you go to pieces and have to stop reading. You don't design a game around such an extreme minority of players. You keep saying that as if repetition can somehow alter reality and make it true. It won't ever be true. All it takes is. Orc - Alignment: Chaotic Evil(optional) and you are objectively wrong. Heck, you don't even need to do that. One sentence in the beginning of the MM stating that alignment is completely optional and you're wrong. [/QUOTE]

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