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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8329531" data-attributes="member: 6801845">None of the monsters I gave descriptions for were undead or fiends.&nbsp; But I'm also not saying they are always evil.&nbsp; What I am saying is that the entries in the MM are for the evil versions. The lore we have is for the evil ones. It should be reinforced that it's up to the DM and the setting if all are, if just a significant percentage are, or if they're no more or less likely to be evil than any other species.&nbsp; It says that now, but it's easy to miss.The game will always have monsters.&nbsp; I don't think it's worthwhile to add extra fluff (and page count) to have examples of non-evil monsters because of page count. That, and I disagree: category of monster has nothing to do with whether they can be any alignment.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you want demons in your campaign that are sometimes good because it makes sense, it should be clear that they can be good.&nbsp; If you want trolls to be always evil, that should be a valid decision as well.IMHO lore can and should vary.&nbsp; Goblins and trolls from the Feywild in my campaign setting are no more or less likely to be evil than any other creature, they tend to be neutral.&nbsp; There is a tribe of goblins in my campaign world where the majority are good (I've never decided about trolls).&nbsp; Orcs?&nbsp; Orcs are effectively grown similar to storm troopers and come out fully formed; there are no baby orcs or females.&nbsp; There's no computer chip implanted in their brains, but there may as well be.This is not about any specific creature.&nbsp; It's about the role of monsters in the game.&nbsp; I think the game needs monsters.Oh, and I don't support killing monsters just because their monsters. The game has evolved since the 70s. So stop bringing up that strawman.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8329531, member: 6801845"] None of the monsters I gave descriptions for were undead or fiends. But I'm also not saying they are always evil. What I [I]am[/I] saying is that the entries in the MM are for the evil versions. The lore we have is for the evil ones. It should be reinforced that it's up to the DM and the setting if all are, if just a significant percentage are, or if they're no more or less likely to be evil than any other species. It says that now, but it's easy to miss. The game will always have monsters. I don't think it's worthwhile to add extra fluff (and page count) to have examples of non-evil monsters because of page count. That, and I disagree: category of monster has nothing to do with whether they can be any alignment. If you want demons in your campaign that are sometimes good because it makes sense, it should be clear that they can be good. If you want trolls to be always evil, that should be a valid decision as well. IMHO lore can and should vary. Goblins and trolls from the Feywild in my campaign setting are no more or less likely to be evil than any other creature, they tend to be neutral. There is a tribe of goblins in my campaign world where the majority are good (I've never decided about trolls). Orcs? Orcs are effectively grown similar to storm troopers and come out fully formed; there are no baby orcs or females. There's no computer chip implanted in their brains, but there may as well be. This is not about any specific creature. It's about the role of monsters in the game. I think the game [I]needs[/I] monsters. Oh, and I don't support killing monsters just because their monsters. The game has evolved since the 70s. So stop bringing up that strawman. [/QUOTE]

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