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The Problem with Evil or what if we don't use alignments?
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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8329615" data-attributes="member: 6801845"><p>My point is there should be a section in the DMG (and probably another in the MM) talking about how alignment is just the default and how to adjust. I think anything that deviates from the default should be setting specific like what Eberron does.</p><p></p><p></p><p>There may have been one person (I don't remember) who brought of killing baby orcs who said they think it's okay if orcs are always evil. Was Ripley evil when she torched the egg sacks of the Xenomorphs in Aliens? Beyond that? It's always the people like you who don't like it that bring it up. Repeatedly. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If an intelligent creature can decide their brain structure gives them empathy, then any intelligent creature should be able to do so. However people overestimate how much control they have over who they are. Some people have a different structure in their amygdala that makes them psychopaths (coded as callous and unemotional the diagnostic manual). Even though it's quite rare, they commit half of all violent crimes. With proper treatment, they're more likely to stay out of jail but they will never develop empathy, the best they can do is be trained to pretend to be normal because it's more rewarding in the long run. <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/when-your-child-is-a-psychopath/524502/" target="_blank">[1]</a> <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /> </p><p></p><p>Last, but not least I'm not going to tell anyone that the way they run their game is bad-wrong-fun. If people want to do dungeon crawls where slaughtering every monster in sight, that's up to them. If you want the evil versions of monsters to be 1 in 100 that's also perfectly fine.</p><p></p><p>In any case, there's nothing new here. I find alignment useful. I think it's an incredible leap of logic to say that if we didn't have alignment we wouldn't have evil monsters or that it would make the game better in any way. We'll just have to agree to disagree.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8329615, member: 6801845"] My point is there should be a section in the DMG (and probably another in the MM) talking about how alignment is just the default and how to adjust. I think anything that deviates from the default should be setting specific like what Eberron does. There may have been one person (I don't remember) who brought of killing baby orcs who said they think it's okay if orcs are always evil. Was Ripley evil when she torched the egg sacks of the Xenomorphs in Aliens? Beyond that? It's always the people like you who don't like it that bring it up. Repeatedly. If an intelligent creature can decide their brain structure gives them empathy, then any intelligent creature should be able to do so. However people overestimate how much control they have over who they are. Some people have a different structure in their amygdala that makes them psychopaths (coded as callous and unemotional the diagnostic manual). Even though it's quite rare, they commit half of all violent crimes. With proper treatment, they're more likely to stay out of jail but they will never develop empathy, the best they can do is be trained to pretend to be normal because it's more rewarding in the long run. [URL='https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/when-your-child-is-a-psychopath/524502/'][1][/URL] 🤷♂️ Last, but not least I'm not going to tell anyone that the way they run their game is bad-wrong-fun. If people want to do dungeon crawls where slaughtering every monster in sight, that's up to them. If you want the evil versions of monsters to be 1 in 100 that's also perfectly fine. In any case, there's nothing new here. I find alignment useful. I think it's an incredible leap of logic to say that if we didn't have alignment we wouldn't have evil monsters or that it would make the game better in any way. We'll just have to agree to disagree. [/QUOTE]
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