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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 8330725" data-attributes="member: 2525">Naw that's not how advocacy for an affirmative change operates. It's a branded element of the game. Memes online routinely compare alignments as a recognizable existing part of the system even for people who do not play the game. Objectively this version of the game is doing spectacularly well, and objectively WOTC has said in statements to shareholders, covered under FTC truth laws, that the game is doing better than it's ever done in the history of their tracking of such records.To advocate for a meaningful change from that system you have to show there is a problem with it. I don't have to show it's working fine as it is - because the default is it's working fine as it is. If you cannot demonstrate a meaningful problem, then you don't get to change a big branded portion of the game for the sake of change.That's the challenge in front of you, if you're going to state it as if it's more than just one person's preferences.You have not. You have not demonstrated any harm to a meaningful number of people at all. You've stated your preferences, and then set forth a hypothetical that you think it could be bad under a certain set of possible scenarios. That's not "showing it to be morally toxic" any more than person of a particular religion claiming their belief system is the correct one and if the game assumes a different belief system then it is "toxic". Claiming something is "toxic" requires proof stronger than your preferences and suspicions.What are your game design credits that you can speak to the triviality of creating a new system which apparently you have not even created in your own game and tested out?Now you're getting personal and nasty. That's uncalled for. Please knock it off. If you have an issue with my argument, respond to it. If you have an issue with ME and my "moral" and "logical" persona, then take it up with the mods. But knock it off here.I don't need evidence that the exiting system works. It does, by default, work. It's a top selling game, it's a branded element of the game, and to change that game you have to prove there is a real problem. You have to show it's harming people to adequately to advocate for an affirmative change. So show it. Anything less is just you trying to enforce your personal choices on others where the others appear just fine with the existing successful system.</blockquote>

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