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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8331163" data-attributes="member: 63508">I'm sure WOTC has the data. I mean we D&amp;D fans have to be consistent. We can't say &quot;WOTCC didn't add or change X because they have the data and the data states pro-change isn't the majority.&quot; AND &quot;WOTC is changing Y but they don't have the data that Y needs changing nor that pro-change is popular.&quot;Anecdotally, I've seen many times in real life and heard many stories of on the net of people using alignment poorly.That stuff was just the last straw.Lawful Stupid Paladins, Flipfloping Druids, Destructive Chaotic Murderhobos, DMs stripping divine powers off of strict readings, Lolth Drow being a nonsense civilization, and CE savages being musclebound yet nothaving basic agriculture needed to fuel their raids have been examples of poor usage of alignment for decades. It's an easy problem to prove. Alignment is a tool with a poor instruction manual and many end up using it wrong and upsetting themselves.Solution: Teach DMs and Players how to rassing frassing use alignment, when to use it, and when to use deeper descriptions.Why are D&amp;D fans so anti-teaching?Oh and the problem with Orcs isn't the real world implications.The problem is that you are telling my that a race of humanoids 125-200% the mass of humans can go around raiding constantly for wealth and food and not starve due to their lack of farms and not be genocided by a focused effort by noblemen to wipe them out. Warhammer Orks sprout from the bloodied ground. Warcraft and M&amp;M Orcs build cities.&nbsp; All three of them farm.D&amp;D Orcs are so Chaotic and so Evil that their nation shouldn't even be able to function.At least Demons have the energy go back to the Abyss to regenerate.And let's not get into the &quot;Everybody was Backstabbing Everybody Else&quot; Drow who somehow produce enough drow after assassinations and betrayals to manage several slave empires underground.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 8331163, member: 63508"] I'm sure WOTC has the data. I mean we D&D fans have to be consistent. We can't say "WOTCC didn't add or change X because they have the data and the data states pro-change isn't the majority." AND "WOTC is changing Y but they don't have the data that Y needs changing nor that pro-change is popular." Anecdotally, I've seen many times in real life and heard many stories of on the net of people using alignment poorly. That stuff was just the last straw. Lawful Stupid Paladins, Flipfloping Druids, Destructive Chaotic Murderhobos, DMs stripping divine powers off of strict readings, Lolth Drow being a nonsense civilization, and CE savages being musclebound yet nothaving basic agriculture needed to fuel their raids have been examples of poor usage of alignment for decades. It's an easy problem to prove. Alignment is a tool with a poor instruction manual and many end up using it wrong and upsetting themselves. Solution: [B]Teach DMs and Players how to rassing frassing use alignment, when to use it, and when to use deeper descriptions.[/B] Why are D&D fans so anti-teaching? Oh and the problem with Orcs isn't the real world implications. The problem is that you are telling my that a race of humanoids 125-200% the mass of humans can go around raiding constantly for wealth and food and not starve due to their lack of farms and not be genocided by a focused effort by noblemen to wipe them out. Warhammer Orks sprout from the bloodied ground. Warcraft and M&M Orcs build cities. All three of them farm. D&D Orcs are so Chaotic and so Evil that their nation shouldn't even be able to function. At least Demons have the energy go back to the Abyss to regenerate. And let's not get into the "Everybody was Backstabbing Everybody Else" Drow who somehow produce enough drow after assassinations and betrayals to manage several slave empires underground. [/QUOTE]

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