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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8331417" data-attributes="member: 6790260">And, honestly, isn't it fairer to them, to assume that they actually are collecting data, rather than just doing what-the-heck-ever they feel like? Like....I don't really get the line of argument presented to you here, because it feels rather the opposite of charitable to say, &quot;Nope, assume they did things out of PURE WHIM rather than that some actual thought and data, however flawed, went into it.&quot;Completely agreed. Likewise, the description for Paladins is supposed to show that they're upstanding and considerate folks who do things very deliberately....and then (at least in 3e and earlier) it immediately launches into hard-and-fast, no-thought rules like &quot;never willingly associates with evil individuals&quot; (despite this being the only way to redeem them...) or whatever, I don't remember the precise wording.Like...alignment is not supposed to be a straitjacket; the descriptions tell us that. And then the designers themselves almost immediately leap into USING it as a straitjacket, or a gotcha trap. It's just not a good look.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8331417, member: 6790260"] And, honestly, isn't it [I]fairer[/I] to them, to assume that they actually are collecting data, rather than just doing what-the-heck-ever they feel like? Like....I don't really get the line of argument presented to you here, because it feels rather the [I]opposite[/I] of charitable to say, "Nope, assume they did things out of PURE WHIM rather than that some actual thought and data, however flawed, went into it." Completely agreed. Likewise, the description for Paladins is supposed to show that they're upstanding and considerate folks who do things very deliberately....and then (at least in 3e and earlier) it immediately launches into hard-and-fast, no-thought rules like "never willingly associates with evil individuals" (despite this being the only way to redeem them...) or whatever, I don't remember the precise wording. Like...alignment is not supposed to be a straitjacket; the descriptions tell us that. And then [I]the designers themselves[/I] almost immediately leap into USING it as a straitjacket, or a gotcha trap. It's just not a good look. [/QUOTE]

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