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<blockquote data-quote="transmission89" data-source="post: 8321968" data-attributes="member: 6688441">That wasn’t the context of his quote.And before we go further with his view of peoples of the east in terms of Mordor being of the east and such, again, it’s important to remember that’s a subjective interpretation not a literal statement from the author that is what it is.If we are to engage in literary theory, critiquing work, it is imperative one must remember that it is fully subjective and we bring our own experiences and baggage within our reading and interpretation of it. As Tolkein didn’t explicitly label Mordor = culture x, it has to be subjective. It can’t be stated as an objective smoking gun.The orcs werent falling, i said they were (from Tolkeins musings on them) inspired and more representative of the biblical fallen angels. Certainly, as you say, he expressed falling into evil in a number of ways, such as with the rings which you highlighted. And as an army of soldiers unrelenting bent on the destruction on the west, to me, I’d interpret that more of his visions of the German war machine advancing west wards from his ww1 days.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="transmission89, post: 8321968, member: 6688441"] That wasn’t the context of his quote. And before we go further with his view of peoples of the east in terms of Mordor being of the east and such, again, it’s important to remember that’s a subjective interpretation not a literal statement from the author that is what it is. If we are to engage in literary theory, critiquing work, it is imperative one must remember that it is fully subjective and we bring our own experiences and baggage within our reading and interpretation of it. As Tolkein didn’t explicitly label Mordor = culture x, it has to be subjective. It can’t be stated as an objective smoking gun. The orcs werent falling, i said they were (from Tolkeins musings on them) inspired and more representative of the biblical fallen angels. Certainly, as you say, he expressed falling into evil in a number of ways, such as with the rings which you highlighted. And as an army of soldiers unrelenting bent on the destruction on the west, to me, I’d interpret that more of his visions of the German war machine advancing west wards from his ww1 days. [/QUOTE]

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