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Message: <blockquote data-quote="transmission89" data-source="post: 8325607" data-attributes="member: 6688441">Again, he doesn't call them out as a proxy for mongolians at all. The reason for this "cultural baggage" is because people keep repeating this false assertion.To be clear, there is a sense of imagery, an evoking “the other”. A then typical social bias, but this has already been mentioned when discussing external effects on work. But this is certainly not the same as saying this imaginary creature is a stand in or proxy for this specific group of peoples.For those demanding of a more considered view: <a href="http://dimitrafimi.com/2018/12/02/revisiting-race-in-tolkiens-legendarium-constructing-cultures-and-ideologies-in-an-imaginary-world/" target="_blank">Revisiting Race in Tolkien’s Legendarium: Constructing Cultures and Ideologies in an Imaginary World</a>The Orcs as used in D&D fill that roll of a blank slate enemy where there is no implication of real human cultures. They are meant to be the solution to the problem being described.EDIT: As a further aside to those that seek conclusions beyond connotations of the evils of the southern and eastern humans that were enslaved to Sauron’s will, I offer this quote of Samwise’ thoughts:““It was Sam’s first view of a battle of Men against Men, and he did not like it much. He was glad that he could not see the dead face. He wondered what the man’s name was and where he came from; and if he was really evil of heart, or what lies or threats had led him on the long march from his home; and if he would rather have stayed there in peace.”Hardly a passage written by someone who could only conclude that people of colour were irredeemably evil and that white is right etc. The  only irredeemable are the orcs, for they are fully embraced to Sauron’s will, tied hopelessly and dependent to his evil machinations, for they are but instruments of his will: “[T]he creatures of Sauron, orc or troll or beast spell-enslaved, ran hither and thither mindless; and some slew themselves, or cast themselves in pits, or fled wailing back to hide in holes and dark lightless places far from hope.”And further views of his opinions on ethnicities can also be found in his opinions on apartheid.</blockquote>

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