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<blockquote data-quote="Ixal" data-source="post: 8338794" data-attributes="member: 7030132"><p>Zanzibar was basically colonized by Muslims and many parts of Africa had trade deals with the Muslim world, especially among the east cost but also Mali (even though a lot of trade was slaves). Mali was also a big site of learning.</p><p>But how much of the technology did spread from the Islamic world to the rest of Africa which were not colonized? Not much. Here you have the same situation like in post-Columbian North America. Settlers with a higher technology base and natives with a lower technology base living next to each other for centuries, yet the technological transfer was rather limited for various reasons.</p><p>The same applies to the European contact in the west. There was some transfer between Europe and the slave trading kingdoms on the coast, but must exchanges were luxury goods which did not really transfer much technology. But from the coastal kingdoms not much spread to the interior of Africa.</p><p></p><p>The same happened in North America. The natives adopted horses and guns, for example. But metallurgy? Writing? The North American tribes actually lost the ability of metallurgy at some point before the contact with Europe as they switched back from copper to stone for various reasons. It was only in the 19th century that some tribes relearned how to smelt and work copper from Mexican settlers.</p><p>So over centuries of contact there was hardly much technological transfer. Some specific items, but the Native Americans did not simply adopt European technology over time, meaning that even after a long tome of contact the technological disparity remained.</p><p></p><p>As for Pre-Columbian times, Central and South American goods goods like maccaw feathers and cocoa were found among the, I think, Pueblo so there defiantly was trade between them and the Mexican powers. There are also some very similar stories between those peoples. So there must at least have been indirect contact and trade between them similar to the Silk Road. The coastal trade certainly was not all that limited.</p><p></p><p>So with all those historical examples of slow to nonexistant technological diffusion and the general slow development in RPG worlds, why exactly would it be implausible and a "colonial trope" for the Grippli the have a much lower technology base than other countries, even though they had contact with them?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ixal, post: 8338794, member: 7030132"] Zanzibar was basically colonized by Muslims and many parts of Africa had trade deals with the Muslim world, especially among the east cost but also Mali (even though a lot of trade was slaves). Mali was also a big site of learning. But how much of the technology did spread from the Islamic world to the rest of Africa which were not colonized? Not much. Here you have the same situation like in post-Columbian North America. Settlers with a higher technology base and natives with a lower technology base living next to each other for centuries, yet the technological transfer was rather limited for various reasons. The same applies to the European contact in the west. There was some transfer between Europe and the slave trading kingdoms on the coast, but must exchanges were luxury goods which did not really transfer much technology. But from the coastal kingdoms not much spread to the interior of Africa. The same happened in North America. The natives adopted horses and guns, for example. But metallurgy? Writing? The North American tribes actually lost the ability of metallurgy at some point before the contact with Europe as they switched back from copper to stone for various reasons. It was only in the 19th century that some tribes relearned how to smelt and work copper from Mexican settlers. So over centuries of contact there was hardly much technological transfer. Some specific items, but the Native Americans did not simply adopt European technology over time, meaning that even after a long tome of contact the technological disparity remained. As for Pre-Columbian times, Central and South American goods goods like maccaw feathers and cocoa were found among the, I think, Pueblo so there defiantly was trade between them and the Mexican powers. There are also some very similar stories between those peoples. So there must at least have been indirect contact and trade between them similar to the Silk Road. The coastal trade certainly was not all that limited. So with all those historical examples of slow to nonexistant technological diffusion and the general slow development in RPG worlds, why exactly would it be implausible and a "colonial trope" for the Grippli the have a much lower technology base than other countries, even though they had contact with them? [/QUOTE]
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