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<blockquote data-quote="Malmuria" data-source="post: 8340649" data-attributes="member: 7030755">Yes, it was used to contrast the &quot;sophisticated&quot; style of 19th c. French painters with the &quot;naive&quot; style of people of color.&nbsp; It is completely dismissive of non (elite) European culture (at least until it was time for European modernists to appropriate primitivist aesthetics).That was not his wording, but my gloss on what he was trying to communicate, per his blog post.&nbsp; His actual wording will probably never be available because wotc owns the copyright.&nbsp; When all of this went down I went through a did a word count on several of the adventures in the book.&nbsp; This particular adventure is one of the shortest, coming in at 6000 ish words.&nbsp; Other adventures are 8-10k words.&nbsp; The problem that the author had with the editing is not just the inclusion of this word, but the fact that they cut out a lot of necessary context that made the lore of the adventure richer.&nbsp; Btw, if wotc had a decent editing process they would have caught this particular problem (use of the word primitive) before the adventure was published.&nbsp; Contemporary editors have to consider how a text will be interpreted by a variety of readers.&nbsp; Even small indie ttrpg designers hire sensitivity readers.In terms of arguing for argument sake, if you take a step back this thread is a bunch of people trying to think through issues of race and colonialism in fantasy gaming in a nuanced and informed way.&nbsp; And then there is one person--you--who is telling everyone else their extremely well researched positions are mere fabrications.&nbsp; What is your investment in this discussion?&nbsp; Why is it not possible for you to accept that people who are not you might interpret a text differently?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Malmuria, post: 8340649, member: 7030755"] Yes, it was used to contrast the "sophisticated" style of 19th c. French painters with the "naive" style of people of color. It is completely dismissive of non (elite) European culture (at least until it was time for European modernists to appropriate primitivist aesthetics). That was not his wording, but my gloss on what he was trying to communicate, per his blog post. His actual wording will probably never be available because wotc owns the copyright. When all of this went down I went through a did a word count on several of the adventures in the book. This particular adventure is one of the shortest, coming in at 6000 ish words. Other adventures are 8-10k words. The problem that the author had with the editing is not just the inclusion of this word, but the fact that they cut out a lot of necessary context that made the lore of the adventure richer. Btw, if wotc had a decent editing process they would have caught this particular problem (use of the word primitive) before the adventure was published. Contemporary editors have to consider how a text will be interpreted by a variety of readers. Even small indie ttrpg designers hire sensitivity readers. In terms of arguing for argument sake, if you take a step back this thread is a bunch of people trying to think through issues of race and colonialism in fantasy gaming in a nuanced and informed way. And then there is one person--you--who is telling everyone else their extremely well researched positions are mere fabrications. What is your investment in this discussion? Why is it not possible for you to accept that people who are not you might interpret a text differently? [/QUOTE]

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