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<blockquote data-quote="Ace" data-source="post: 8346071" data-attributes="member: 944">I don't live anywhere near an ivory tower but a mixed ethnicity and gender&nbsp; working/middle class area, Also have a mixed ethnic and gender gaming group as well . All of my adult gaming have been with mixed ethnicity, gender&nbsp; and/or cultural&nbsp; groups . That included gay people as well .So no Ivory Tower here.Its probably more class related , almost no one I game with has a college degree or works in any field that requires one so they have a different set of priorities whatever ethnic group they belong too.&nbsp; The few college educated exceptions, one a first nations person&nbsp;&nbsp; was educated decades ago in an entirely different educational&nbsp; system.This isn't meant to negate real life concerns over racism mind in any way but I'm discussing fantasy racism and gaming world racism not real issues here.Also the worry about racism against&nbsp; non existent species is new. No one in the past cared&nbsp; racism against orcs&nbsp; because orcs do not exist and don't represent any real group. Killing orcs babies was just gamer angels on heads of pins stuff.&nbsp;A concern about portrayal about racism&nbsp; real groups&nbsp; could come up&nbsp; and its valid&nbsp; even in the day though&nbsp; WOD gypsies was thought trash but a high openness even among even very Conservative gamers meant it really wasn't an issue that I remember. You were a gamer or not a gamer.&nbsp;Maybe I have been lucky but I've never gamed with overtly racist people of any race . Doesn't mean they aren't out there but even very Right Wing gamers tend to rate high in openness so its unlikely to be a threat to the hobby . FWIW I'd kick racist gamers&nbsp;&nbsp; for being obnoxious or leave. I am there to game&nbsp; period.Interestingly&nbsp; have seen very occasional concern about evil spirits and demonic names&nbsp;&nbsp; from spiritually inclined gamers and about playing evil from religious ones but this was rare .</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ace, post: 8346071, member: 944"] I don't live anywhere near an ivory tower but a mixed ethnicity and gender working/middle class area, Also have a mixed ethnic and gender gaming group as well . All of my adult gaming have been with mixed ethnicity, gender and/or cultural groups . That included gay people as well .So no Ivory Tower here. Its probably more class related , almost no one I game with has a college degree or works in any field that requires one so they have a different set of priorities whatever ethnic group they belong too. The few college educated exceptions, one a first nations person was educated decades ago in an entirely different educational system. This isn't meant to negate real life concerns over racism mind in any way but I'm discussing fantasy racism and gaming world racism not real issues here. Also the worry about racism against non existent species is new. No one in the past cared racism against orcs because orcs do not exist and don't represent any real group. Killing orcs babies was just gamer angels on heads of pins stuff. A concern about portrayal about racism real groups could come up and its valid even in the day though WOD gypsies was thought trash but a high openness even among even very Conservative gamers meant it really wasn't an issue that I remember. You were a gamer or not a gamer. Maybe I have been lucky but I've never gamed with overtly racist people of any race . Doesn't mean they aren't out there but even very Right Wing gamers tend to rate high in openness so its unlikely to be a threat to the hobby . FWIW I'd kick racist gamers for being obnoxious or leave. I am there to game period. Interestingly have seen very occasional concern about evil spirits and demonic names from spiritually inclined gamers and about playing evil from religious ones but this was rare . [/QUOTE]

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